Stacey Abrams

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I want to talk about this for a

We hear the term fascist thrown around, autocrat, authoritarian, and they all have very specific meanings.

And I think this is a moment where all of those meanings apply in different ways for different reasons, but they're all true.

This administration, this president, the regime that surrounds him, have made a centerpiece of their policymaking, attacking diversity,

reviling equity and demeaning inclusion.

They have been very intentional about attacks on race, attacks on gender, attacks on sexual orientation, sexual gender identity.

They have been very, very clear about the rise of ethno-nationalism and Christian nationalism, and those are markers of fascism.

And the reason I raise this is because, you know, during Trump's first term, there was a heated debate among designers about whether they would dress Melania.

You know, there are big names like Tom Ford and Marc Jacobs and Zach Posen who publicly refused.

And yet this time, that forceful opposition seems to have faded.

And multiple members of the family of this regime, the family of those who have made it a very clear intention to reject Melania,

diversity, to be repulsed by the importance of identities that are not their own.

These family members are being dressed for events by high-profile designers.

And so I'd love to hear you reflect on how you see the shift and what does it say about the fashion industry and cultural gatekeepers more broadly.

And I want to tie it back to something you referenced, which is

Khakis and the polo shirts of today were the brown shirts that Hugo Boss had to apologize for providing to the Nazis.