Stacey Evans
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They wanted it so much that even though their own sources, their own immigration lawyers in Georgia were saying, we are not seeing it, even though ICE was saying two hysterectomies, Even though this was not a firsthand account, they just couldn't stop themselves from doing it. And then those text messages that you showed, some of those go into the night after the first night of reporting.
They wanted it so much that even though their own sources, their own immigration lawyers in Georgia were saying, we are not seeing it, even though ICE was saying two hysterectomies, Even though this was not a firsthand account, they just couldn't stop themselves from doing it. And then those text messages that you showed, some of those go into the night after the first night of reporting.
They wanted it so much that even though their own sources, their own immigration lawyers in Georgia were saying, we are not seeing it, even though ICE was saying two hysterectomies, Even though this was not a firsthand account, they just couldn't stop themselves from doing it. And then those text messages that you showed, some of those go into the night after the first night of reporting.
And you have them even saying, gosh, I've got to know if it's true. I can't move on. I wonder if it's true. Do we think that the attorneys that did talk to us and told us that they found one Do we think they conspired? I've heard mixed things about Don Wooten, the alleged whistleblower. They are questioning it, and they didn't stop.
And you have them even saying, gosh, I've got to know if it's true. I can't move on. I wonder if it's true. Do we think that the attorneys that did talk to us and told us that they found one Do we think they conspired? I've heard mixed things about Don Wooten, the alleged whistleblower. They are questioning it, and they didn't stop.
And you have them even saying, gosh, I've got to know if it's true. I can't move on. I wonder if it's true. Do we think that the attorneys that did talk to us and told us that they found one Do we think they conspired? I've heard mixed things about Don Wooten, the alleged whistleblower. They are questioning it, and they didn't stop.
It's a hard job, but when you learn better, when you know better, you do better, and they just didn't do that here. If it's okay, I wanted to Real quickly, you mentioned how we had to meet that actual malice standard, and we did. That is so hard. It is so hard. It's so hard. To get past summary judgment on actual malice. So I have to pat ourselves on the back for that for our team. But we did.
It's a hard job, but when you learn better, when you know better, you do better, and they just didn't do that here. If it's okay, I wanted to Real quickly, you mentioned how we had to meet that actual malice standard, and we did. That is so hard. It is so hard. It's so hard. To get past summary judgment on actual malice. So I have to pat ourselves on the back for that for our team. But we did.
It's a hard job, but when you learn better, when you know better, you do better, and they just didn't do that here. If it's okay, I wanted to Real quickly, you mentioned how we had to meet that actual malice standard, and we did. That is so hard. It is so hard. It's so hard. To get past summary judgment on actual malice. So I have to pat ourselves on the back for that for our team. But we did.
Right. Right. We got we got it's so rare for a plaintiff to get summary judgment. We got summary judgment on several of the statements being false as a matter of law. And she said no evidence of mass hysterectomies, no evidence of high numbers of hysterectomies. And obviously he's not a uterus collector. But we had to prove actual malice here. And we were allowed to go to the jury on that.
Right. Right. We got we got it's so rare for a plaintiff to get summary judgment. We got summary judgment on several of the statements being false as a matter of law. And she said no evidence of mass hysterectomies, no evidence of high numbers of hysterectomies. And obviously he's not a uterus collector. But we had to prove actual malice here. And we were allowed to go to the jury on that.
Right. Right. We got we got it's so rare for a plaintiff to get summary judgment. We got summary judgment on several of the statements being false as a matter of law. And she said no evidence of mass hysterectomies, no evidence of high numbers of hysterectomies. And obviously he's not a uterus collector. But we had to prove actual malice here. And we were allowed to go to the jury on that.
If the case I continued, we'd be in trial right now or next week. But we had to prove actual malice here, even though Dr. Amin is not a public figure, because Georgia has a very strict anti-SLAPP statute. Strategic lawsuit against public participation is what SLAPP stands for, for the viewers and listeners.
If the case I continued, we'd be in trial right now or next week. But we had to prove actual malice here, even though Dr. Amin is not a public figure, because Georgia has a very strict anti-SLAPP statute. Strategic lawsuit against public participation is what SLAPP stands for, for the viewers and listeners.
If the case I continued, we'd be in trial right now or next week. But we had to prove actual malice here, even though Dr. Amin is not a public figure, because Georgia has a very strict anti-SLAPP statute. Strategic lawsuit against public participation is what SLAPP stands for, for the viewers and listeners.
And so when you have statements on air or in publications about issues of public concern, which this was deemed to be that, you have to reach that actual malice standard regardless of public figure status. And so that's why we had to do that. There's been some we could get nerdy on the law. There's been a little bit of changes since since that happened.
And so when you have statements on air or in publications about issues of public concern, which this was deemed to be that, you have to reach that actual malice standard regardless of public figure status. And so that's why we had to do that. There's been some we could get nerdy on the law. There's been a little bit of changes since since that happened.
And so when you have statements on air or in publications about issues of public concern, which this was deemed to be that, you have to reach that actual malice standard regardless of public figure status. And so that's why we had to do that. There's been some we could get nerdy on the law. There's been a little bit of changes since since that happened.
And I have some disagreement about how that was applied here. But that's why it wasn't because he was a public figure, but because in this case, the court had deemed this an issue of public concern. And so we had to meet that higher standard, which is very, very hard. And I'm really proud of our team.
And I have some disagreement about how that was applied here. But that's why it wasn't because he was a public figure, but because in this case, the court had deemed this an issue of public concern. And so we had to meet that higher standard, which is very, very hard. And I'm really proud of our team.