Stacey Evans

He cannot talk about specific patients. He cannot talk about specific things that happened with them. And so that general denial was all he could do.

But what what was true and what we just got worse as we were peeling back the layers during discovery is this whole thing started with Julia Ainsley and Jacob Stoveroff were writing, working together on an article that was going to be for NBC News online. And they were calling immigration lawyers in Georgia, obviously speaking to Don Wooten.

But what what was true and what we just got worse as we were peeling back the layers during discovery is this whole thing started with Julia Ainsley and Jacob Stoveroff were writing, working together on an article that was going to be for NBC News online. And they were calling immigration lawyers in Georgia, obviously speaking to Don Wooten.

But what what was true and what we just got worse as we were peeling back the layers during discovery is this whole thing started with Julia Ainsley and Jacob Stoveroff were writing, working together on an article that was going to be for NBC News online. And they were calling immigration lawyers in Georgia, obviously speaking to Don Wooten.

And what they found in the course of doing that is that the immigration lawyers were telling them, you know, when this story broke, we started calling our colleagues. One of the immigration lawyers that they talked to was a leader in this 15,000 plus member association of immigration lawyers all across

And what they found in the course of doing that is that the immigration lawyers were telling them, you know, when this story broke, we started calling our colleagues. One of the immigration lawyers that they talked to was a leader in this 15,000 plus member association of immigration lawyers all across

And what they found in the course of doing that is that the immigration lawyers were telling them, you know, when this story broke, we started calling our colleagues. One of the immigration lawyers that they talked to was a leader in this 15,000 plus member association of immigration lawyers all across

the country and she had access to all the ones there in the Southeast and Georgia in particular, they were not seeing high numbers of hysterectomies. And they told the reporters at MSNBC that's unclear whether it was Jacob that they told or Julia, but they told one of them, we are not seeing it. We are calling around. We are asking people to report to us and we are not seeing it.

the country and she had access to all the ones there in the Southeast and Georgia in particular, they were not seeing high numbers of hysterectomies. And they told the reporters at MSNBC that's unclear whether it was Jacob that they told or Julia, but they told one of them, we are not seeing it. We are calling around. We are asking people to report to us and we are not seeing it.

the country and she had access to all the ones there in the Southeast and Georgia in particular, they were not seeing high numbers of hysterectomies. And they told the reporters at MSNBC that's unclear whether it was Jacob that they told or Julia, but they told one of them, we are not seeing it. We are calling around. We are asking people to report to us and we are not seeing it.

Going to air, they really only had hard evidence of one hysterectomy. And they had that from an immigration lawyer who told them, and she had cancer. That's what they had. Now, they said they had more than that, but they never did. The most they ever had was two.

Going to air, they really only had hard evidence of one hysterectomy. And they had that from an immigration lawyer who told them, and she had cancer. That's what they had. Now, they said they had more than that, but they never did. The most they ever had was two.

Going to air, they really only had hard evidence of one hysterectomy. And they had that from an immigration lawyer who told them, and she had cancer. That's what they had. Now, they said they had more than that, but they never did. The most they ever had was two.

That's what ICE was saying, is that there were two reported out from ICE and that they were approved through their internal procedures to be necessary. And then you had standards who was looking at that article standards and practices.

That's what ICE was saying, is that there were two reported out from ICE and that they were approved through their internal procedures to be necessary. And then you had standards who was looking at that article standards and practices.

That's what ICE was saying, is that there were two reported out from ICE and that they were approved through their internal procedures to be necessary. And then you had standards who was looking at that article standards and practices.

Yeah, absolutely. And I, and I've, I personally felt sorry for Christopher Scholl was the deputy head of standards at the time. And he was clearly pushing back. And he was saying, we have this one source. She has no direct knowledge because she told even Jacob Soboroff, I didn't go with the women during their medical treatments. And Dr. Amin never set foot

Yeah, absolutely. And I, and I've, I personally felt sorry for Christopher Scholl was the deputy head of standards at the time. And he was clearly pushing back. And he was saying, we have this one source. She has no direct knowledge because she told even Jacob Soboroff, I didn't go with the women during their medical treatments. And Dr. Amin never set foot

Yeah, absolutely. And I, and I've, I personally felt sorry for Christopher Scholl was the deputy head of standards at the time. And he was clearly pushing back. And he was saying, we have this one source. She has no direct knowledge because she told even Jacob Soboroff, I didn't go with the women during their medical treatments. And Dr. Amin never set foot

onto the campus of Irwin County detention center. The women were brought to his private medical office. Don Wooten said the alleged whistleblower, I didn't go there. I don't know what happened. So she has no firsthand knowledge. And the deputy head of standards is pointing this out guys. Hey, we have one source with no direct knowledge. This is sensational.