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It's trust. It's an issue of trust.

So Miguel, I've got a couple of thoughts and then Sheridan, I'll get to you just in a sec. Are we dealing today with more of diseases of our time? In other words, if you think about around COVID, the early 1900s, we were dealing with a lot of infectious diseases, okay? So today, okay, where at least hopefully people get properly vaccinated, which is a whole other subject.

So Miguel, I've got a couple of thoughts and then Sheridan, I'll get to you just in a sec. Are we dealing today with more of diseases of our time? In other words, if you think about around COVID, the early 1900s, we were dealing with a lot of infectious diseases, okay? So today, okay, where at least hopefully people get properly vaccinated, which is a whole other subject.

But today we're dealing with, frankly, more complicated disease entities, the synergistic effect, you know, a combination of a variety of multiple variables that affect people. a particular disease. So do you think this synergistic effect is having an effect on addressing disparities? In other words, diseases are a little bit more complicated.

But today we're dealing with, frankly, more complicated disease entities, the synergistic effect, you know, a combination of a variety of multiple variables that affect people. a particular disease. So do you think this synergistic effect is having an effect on addressing disparities? In other words, diseases are a little bit more complicated.

You know, heart disease, you know, it's like, what's the cause of heart disease? Well, I could, you know, I could give you a laundry list of things that cause that. So that's question one. Dealing with diseases of our time. And then the other thing as it relates to disparities is this, the distinction between necessary care and elective care.

You know, heart disease, you know, it's like, what's the cause of heart disease? Well, I could, you know, I could give you a laundry list of things that cause that. So that's question one. Dealing with diseases of our time. And then the other thing as it relates to disparities is this, the distinction between necessary care and elective care.

So for instance, necessary surgery versus elective surgery. And are we seeing disparities there? there as well. So diseases of our time and necessary in elective care.

So for instance, necessary surgery versus elective surgery. And are we seeing disparities there? there as well. So diseases of our time and necessary in elective care.

Right.

Right.

And guess what? And the safety of it.

And guess what? And the safety of it.

Sheridan, thanks for being patient.

Sheridan, thanks for being patient.

You know, one of the things that I've gotten from your insights is we can learn from one another and we need to really take the opportunity to listen carefully, hold hands together to make a difference. And if we all have that kind of mindset I think, for instance, the goals for Healthy People 2030, we can start getting there.

You know, one of the things that I've gotten from your insights is we can learn from one another and we need to really take the opportunity to listen carefully, hold hands together to make a difference. And if we all have that kind of mindset I think, for instance, the goals for Healthy People 2030, we can start getting there.

It's just the recognition, first and foremost, that we have the problems. Let's listen to one another and try to make differences and come up with ideas, creative ideas together. I think it's really good. Clarence.

It's just the recognition, first and foremost, that we have the problems. Let's listen to one another and try to make differences and come up with ideas, creative ideas together. I think it's really good. Clarence.

Miguel, I'm going to say this. This subject is huge. And I know that you are embedded in it professionally. So please, if indeed in the course of your work going forward, you come up with some aha moments where you you think, God, this would be really good information to share on health chatter so that we can get this information or these ideas out more broadly. Absolutely.