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Terry, what do you think?

You know, it's interesting, you know, listeners, you know, have heard that, you know, I see knee patients after they've come out of knee surgery, because I've had it done myself. And one of the things I tell the patient, and also their significant other who they might, or a friend or whoever might be in the room with them, on staying ahead of the pain. Okay.

You know, it's interesting, you know, listeners, you know, have heard that, you know, I see knee patients after they've come out of knee surgery, because I've had it done myself. And one of the things I tell the patient, and also their significant other who they might, or a friend or whoever might be in the room with them, on staying ahead of the pain. Okay.

So, you know, that's one of the things, you know, how, And it's interesting because patients will say, we've heard that, but how in the hell do you do it? And for somebody then who's gone through it, then you can give them that kind of advice. But otherwise it's kind of like they're lost. And that's just one little caregiving thing when you think about it. I mean, it's just amazing.

So, you know, that's one of the things, you know, how, And it's interesting because patients will say, we've heard that, but how in the hell do you do it? And for somebody then who's gone through it, then you can give them that kind of advice. But otherwise it's kind of like they're lost. And that's just one little caregiving thing when you think about it. I mean, it's just amazing.

So let's talk about burnout now. I mean, we've kind of just touched on caregiving in general and there's a lot of it going on, but let's talk about let's talk about professional burnout first, and then we'll talk maybe about family burnout, because I have a feeling that there's some complimentary aspects.

So let's talk about burnout now. I mean, we've kind of just touched on caregiving in general and there's a lot of it going on, but let's talk about let's talk about professional burnout first, and then we'll talk maybe about family burnout, because I have a feeling that there's some complimentary aspects.

So professional burnout, I'm sure that both of you have either been, witnessed it yourself or know people, your colleagues that have gone through it. So give us your sense of professional burnout and what, what's being done to identify it and help in this case, the professional caregivers. So Lisa, why don't you go first?

So professional burnout, I'm sure that both of you have either been, witnessed it yourself or know people, your colleagues that have gone through it. So give us your sense of professional burnout and what, what's being done to identify it and help in this case, the professional caregivers. So Lisa, why don't you go first?

Yeah, Terry.

Yeah, Terry.

So it's really the prevention of it. How is it that, that professional care, you know, I've kind of made this distinction. I don't know if it's appropriate or not, but this professional caregiving, how is it that we can prevent burnout and then family caregiving? How can we prevent burnout? So Terry, why don't you address that from your perspective?

So it's really the prevention of it. How is it that, that professional care, you know, I've kind of made this distinction. I don't know if it's appropriate or not, but this professional caregiving, how is it that we can prevent burnout and then family caregiving? How can we prevent burnout? So Terry, why don't you address that from your perspective?

Those are all good thoughts. We could do a bunch of shows on this. One of the things that you've kind of alluded to is cost. So I wonder, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I wonder whether or not we're seeing more family-oriented caregiving in the subsequent burnout because of the costs, just the costs. Respond to that, I guess. Is that true, I guess?

Those are all good thoughts. We could do a bunch of shows on this. One of the things that you've kind of alluded to is cost. So I wonder, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I wonder whether or not we're seeing more family-oriented caregiving in the subsequent burnout because of the costs, just the costs. Respond to that, I guess. Is that true, I guess?

You know, it's one of the things that's really struck me in this conversation or this chat is lifestyle change. And in many cases, it's the immediacy of the lifestyle change. Somebody is diagnosed with Alzheimer's and all of a sudden it kind of puts everybody in a kind of a tizzy on, what to do, how to do it.

You know, it's one of the things that's really struck me in this conversation or this chat is lifestyle change. And in many cases, it's the immediacy of the lifestyle change. Somebody is diagnosed with Alzheimer's and all of a sudden it kind of puts everybody in a kind of a tizzy on, what to do, how to do it.

You know, it's one thing on the patient side, it's another thing on the caregiver side, whether it be a family member or a professional. So lifestyle change is really big, I think. One thing I wanted, I thought I would tell just a little sidebar story here. A very dear colleague of mine, and actually he was my

You know, it's one thing on the patient side, it's another thing on the caregiver side, whether it be a family member or a professional. So lifestyle change is really big, I think. One thing I wanted, I thought I would tell just a little sidebar story here. A very dear colleague of mine, and actually he was my

my doctoral advisor came down with, and this was years ago, came down with early onset Alzheimer's. And he was a young man. And I remember distinctly going over to his house and his wife was helping to basically feed him. And She, on all the cabinets in the kitchen, they were labeled. They were labeled, and some were locked.