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So I want to kind of talk about some other variables that kind of linger in this conversation, and that's the ideas of loneliness.

Being alone and those types of things. So just for our listening audience, if you have a chance, Dr. Vivek Murthy, who used to be the Surgeon General of the United States, has really taken this upon himself to address this. loneliness. And it's interesting, he really defined, and we can link it to this conversation for sure.

Being alone and those types of things. So just for our listening audience, if you have a chance, Dr. Vivek Murthy, who used to be the Surgeon General of the United States, has really taken this upon himself to address this. loneliness. And it's interesting, he really defined, and we can link it to this conversation for sure.

There's intimate loneliness, what he described, intimate loneliness, relationship loneliness, community loneliness, and isolation, living alone, all together. And when you place a spouse or a significant other in a long-term care facility, I can't help but think that you're going to be dealing with some of this stuff. Some level of isolation, some level of loneliness all of a sudden.

There's intimate loneliness, what he described, intimate loneliness, relationship loneliness, community loneliness, and isolation, living alone, all together. And when you place a spouse or a significant other in a long-term care facility, I can't help but think that you're going to be dealing with some of this stuff. Some level of isolation, some level of loneliness all of a sudden.

I mean, even if that person might've been so sick that you placed in long-term care, but just their presence, just being out of the house, can, I would assume can lead to that. Yet, you know, according to the article that came in out in the New York Times, it, there's also a sense of relief, too. Relief and stress reduction. So I wonder if you could comment on that a little bit.

I mean, even if that person might've been so sick that you placed in long-term care, but just their presence, just being out of the house, can, I would assume can lead to that. Yet, you know, according to the article that came in out in the New York Times, it, there's also a sense of relief, too. Relief and stress reduction. So I wonder if you could comment on that a little bit.

So, you know, there's, All this, I mean, it's a lot when you really think about all the variables and all the implications and timing and costs and all that. So based on everything, what do you believe is the lowest hanging fruit, so to speak, in order to really have some strong implications for our communities? And how is it that we communicate that effectively?

So, you know, there's, All this, I mean, it's a lot when you really think about all the variables and all the implications and timing and costs and all that. So based on everything, what do you believe is the lowest hanging fruit, so to speak, in order to really have some strong implications for our communities? And how is it that we communicate that effectively?

You know, I think of, you know, long-term care is avoidance behavior. You know, it's like none of us really want to, and for many people, you know, they want to live at home and all this kind of, so it's avoidance behavior. So how is it that we can get beyond, it shouldn't be avoided, okay? It shouldn't have a negative connotation in that sense.

You know, I think of, you know, long-term care is avoidance behavior. You know, it's like none of us really want to, and for many people, you know, they want to live at home and all this kind of, so it's avoidance behavior. So how is it that we can get beyond, it shouldn't be avoided, okay? It shouldn't have a negative connotation in that sense.

How is it that we can truly make long-term care possible? easier, more user-friendly, more engaging for all of us in the sense that it's not as hard to navigate for those that really need it and for those that are behind. So Clarence, other thoughts that you have?

How is it that we can truly make long-term care possible? easier, more user-friendly, more engaging for all of us in the sense that it's not as hard to navigate for those that really need it and for those that are behind. So Clarence, other thoughts that you have?

You know, before this, we had a show right prior to this on the illusion of immortality. Oh, yeah.

You know, before this, we had a show right prior to this on the illusion of immortality. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, right, right, right.

Yeah, right, right, right.

Absolutely, yeah. And human beings are really hardwired to be more interactive.

Absolutely, yeah. And human beings are really hardwired to be more interactive.

You know, when you talk about genetics, it's kind of like, you know, for myself, I feel like I have like a split personality because it's my father died when he was he was he was quite young and I was young. And then my mother died when she was quite old. So where does that leave me somewhere genetically in between? Right.