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Hello, everybody. Welcome to Health Chatter. Today's show with Jess Clarence and I today, aren't you all lucky, is on the subject of grief and health, which is kind of sad, but hopefully there'll be a positive component to it at the very end. So stay tuned for all the insight on grief. Thanks to our illustrious staff,

Maddie Levine-Wolf, Aaron Collins, Deandra Howard, Matthew Campbell, Sheridan Nygaard are really all second to none. They cover all the aspects for us on our background research and marketing and production. And Clarence and I certainly could not do it without them. Then, of course, Clarence Jones is my great colleague. We're having a good time doing this.

Maddie Levine-Wolf, Aaron Collins, Deandra Howard, Matthew Campbell, Sheridan Nygaard are really all second to none. They cover all the aspects for us on our background research and marketing and production. And Clarence and I certainly could not do it without them. Then, of course, Clarence Jones is my great colleague. We're having a good time doing this.

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Basically, everybody should know that we put our research, background research to all our shows on our website. So you can connect in with all the different things that we use as reference points for our discussion. So check us out. And if you like us, Give us a nice review. That would be nice too. All right. So today we're going to be talking about grief. So Clarence, I'll let you start it out.

Basically, everybody should know that we put our research, background research to all our shows on our website. So you can connect in with all the different things that we use as reference points for our discussion. So check us out. And if you like us, Give us a nice review. That would be nice too. All right. So today we're going to be talking about grief. So Clarence, I'll let you start it out.

All right. So, you know, I'll tell you, we're living in a time where, unfortunately, there's a lot of grief that's going on at various different levels. But what's your sense of it, Clarence?

All right. So, you know, I'll tell you, we're living in a time where, unfortunately, there's a lot of grief that's going on at various different levels. But what's your sense of it, Clarence?

Yeah. keep in mind what we're trying to do here, what Clarence and I are trying to do is connect the concept of grief with health, okay, and how it affects our health. And Sheridan put together the background for this show, and I gave her kind of, you know, a little bit of an outline, and this is the outline. There's personal grief, there's

Yeah. keep in mind what we're trying to do here, what Clarence and I are trying to do is connect the concept of grief with health, okay, and how it affects our health. And Sheridan put together the background for this show, and I gave her kind of, you know, a little bit of an outline, and this is the outline. There's personal grief, there's

community grief we're going to talk about all these there's national grief what's going on nationally in in our country there's international grief that's that's going on and then as we deal with grief there are acute aspects to it and there are also chronic aspects to it But I think the bottom line is one way or the other, grief elicits for all of us a level of stress and anxiety.

community grief we're going to talk about all these there's national grief what's going on nationally in in our country there's international grief that's that's going on and then as we deal with grief there are acute aspects to it and there are also chronic aspects to it But I think the bottom line is one way or the other, grief elicits for all of us a level of stress and anxiety.

And so hopefully we'll be able to get to all of these. So let's talk about personal grief first. So Clarence, let me ask you, I'm sure that there's been grief in your family or you've experienced grief. Do you want to share some of that and how you kind of dealt with it?

And so hopefully we'll be able to get to all of these. So let's talk about personal grief first. So Clarence, let me ask you, I'm sure that there's been grief in your family or you've experienced grief. Do you want to share some of that and how you kind of dealt with it?

Yeah. You know, it's interesting connecting to the last show that we did on, or one of the last shows that we did on long COVID. And you've alluded to this. It's kind of like grieving that personal interaction, even though, you know, we've all had, you know, access to Zoom or what have you, to be able to see each other. But touch is also a major component here.

Yeah. You know, it's interesting connecting to the last show that we did on, or one of the last shows that we did on long COVID. And you've alluded to this. It's kind of like grieving that personal interaction, even though, you know, we've all had, you know, access to Zoom or what have you, to be able to see each other. But touch is also a major component here.

And there might be, you know, the jury is out on how it is that we might grieve that or lack of it going forward. So what we'll see how that goes. Alright, so let's talk a little bit more about personal grief. So I went to last three weeks, I've gone to two funerals. The, the first one was I went on to because a colleague of mine that I used to work with his mother passed away at 93.

And there might be, you know, the jury is out on how it is that we might grieve that or lack of it going forward. So what we'll see how that goes. Alright, so let's talk a little bit more about personal grief. So I went to last three weeks, I've gone to two funerals. The, the first one was I went on to because a colleague of mine that I used to work with his mother passed away at 93.

I did not know her, but I went for him because we were good colleagues. And it's really interesting as I reflect on it. His mother was a wonderful woman, really. And the funeral was very, very nice. But obviously, I sensed with people around me different levels of grieving. For me, I wasn't grieving. I was there as, I guess, a support mechanism more than anything. anything else.