Stan

Yeah. You know, you bring up a really good point. Grief does not necessarily have to come from, like, for instance, a death or an injury or an illness, per se. It can come from other things, such as retiring. You know, people have asked me when I retired, are you grieving? Okay. And the answer for me quite honestly was no, because, um, you know, I had kind of set it up ahead of time.

I got my, my head around it. Um, and, you know, and doing some fun, interesting things going forward. Do I, um, I miss some of the things that I was involved with? Yeah, of course, you know, but, um, There are other things that can cause grief, and it just doesn't necessarily have to circle around illness. One thing, though, is how we respond to it individually.

I got my, my head around it. Um, and, you know, and doing some fun, interesting things going forward. Do I, um, I miss some of the things that I was involved with? Yeah, of course, you know, but, um, There are other things that can cause grief, and it just doesn't necessarily have to circle around illness. One thing, though, is how we respond to it individually.

And Clarence, you noted that for some people, they just can't get out of it. Yeah. OK. And and they need sometimes they need, you know, therapy or assistance or guidance or things to help them move on. You know, whether that's exercising more or socializing differently or taking on some new activities or. just going for a walk with someone. Those types of things are different for each individual.

And Clarence, you noted that for some people, they just can't get out of it. Yeah. OK. And and they need sometimes they need, you know, therapy or assistance or guidance or things to help them move on. You know, whether that's exercising more or socializing differently or taking on some new activities or. just going for a walk with someone. Those types of things are different for each individual.

Clarence, have you sensed that at all?

Clarence, have you sensed that at all?

Yeah. You know, here's an interesting thing that I've experienced. when our when we had our first grandchild i i was i don't know if i was grieving but i was certainly sad i mean i was happy that you know we had a you know grandchild but i was also sad that my dad wasn't around yeah okay because he would have just gone nuts for for you know OK, and he wasn't able to experience it.

Yeah. You know, here's an interesting thing that I've experienced. when our when we had our first grandchild i i was i don't know if i was grieving but i was certainly sad i mean i was happy that you know we had a you know grandchild but i was also sad that my dad wasn't around yeah okay because he would have just gone nuts for for you know OK, and he wasn't able to experience it.

So it caused me to reflect on not on grieving, but a little bit of the sadness that he couldn't. But, you know, how you cope with it is differently. Like I know, you know, you say in your head. you know, he's looking down and smiling. Okay. That type of thing. Okay. And that's how you, how you cope with it as, as human beings.

So it caused me to reflect on not on grieving, but a little bit of the sadness that he couldn't. But, you know, how you cope with it is differently. Like I know, you know, you say in your head. you know, he's looking down and smiling. Okay. That type of thing. Okay. And that's how you, how you cope with it as, as human beings.

Correct, correct. You know, one thing too is remembering is not necessarily grief. You know, for some people, you know, keeping, you know, constantly remembering can exacerbate grief. But on the other hand, remembering can be a really positive thing, um, as, as you go forward, uh, after you've, you've lost somebody. So everybody deals with it differently.

Correct, correct. You know, one thing too is remembering is not necessarily grief. You know, for some people, you know, keeping, you know, constantly remembering can exacerbate grief. But on the other hand, remembering can be a really positive thing, um, as, as you go forward, uh, after you've, you've lost somebody. So everybody deals with it differently.

So I want to, I want to change focus just a little bit here and talk about community. All right. So our listening audience, you know, we're all housed here in, in, um, pretty much in, in Minnesota. So we went through a major community, um, event when, um, with George Floyd and that whole very unfortunate situation.

So I want to, I want to change focus just a little bit here and talk about community. All right. So our listening audience, you know, we're all housed here in, in, um, pretty much in, in Minnesota. So we went through a major community, um, event when, um, with George Floyd and that whole very unfortunate situation.

And it really was hard, I think for this community to embrace the sadness of all of that. So Clarence, you're in the African-American community Just give me a sense of how you think the population grieved during that period of time.

And it really was hard, I think for this community to embrace the sadness of all of that. So Clarence, you're in the African-American community Just give me a sense of how you think the population grieved during that period of time.

you know correct me if i'm wrong i think part of the um response that we all felt perhaps was this how in the heck could something like this happen in the state of minnesota you know where we're all kind of you know we we don't see it or you know whatever like you would necessarily in uh like you know like in a city like new york for instance where there's maybe a higher crime rate but

you know correct me if i'm wrong i think part of the um response that we all felt perhaps was this how in the heck could something like this happen in the state of minnesota you know where we're all kind of you know we we don't see it or you know whatever like you would necessarily in uh like you know like in a city like new york for instance where there's maybe a higher crime rate but

How can this happen here? So my wife and I, we went to the site, you know, the memorial site to see it because it's like, you know, perhaps grieving is you can't realize it or maybe accept it unless you sense it or are there physically. And I'll tell you, it really hit us when we went to that, to the site where it happened. And it's just like, oh my God, you know, it's like,