Stan

So, you know, here's partially a takeaway for the audience, too. It doesn't matter if it's a stroke. It could be any medical condition here. There should be equity. There should be the same kind of care for one as it is for the other, okay? It's just the way it should be, okay? We'll get back to stroke in just a second. Clarence, are you there? I don't know if he can connect the end.

He's having a little bit of problem connecting it, but let me, are you there? Yeah, I'm here. I just got back into the cities.

He's having a little bit of problem connecting it, but let me, are you there? Yeah, I'm here. I just got back into the cities.

So, you know, Tony, you also mentioned a really, really important aspect here, and then I'll let you take the mic here, but is this idea of trust. And fortunately, you were able to create trust in, in frankly, a pretty quick manner with, with Hytham. Okay.

So, you know, Tony, you also mentioned a really, really important aspect here, and then I'll let you take the mic here, but is this idea of trust. And fortunately, you were able to create trust in, in frankly, a pretty quick manner with, with Hytham. Okay.

And that, but that even took some conversation from what, from what I understand in order for you to gain that in order for you to proceed with the care that you needed. Okay. Take it from there.

And that, but that even took some conversation from what, from what I understand in order for you to gain that in order for you to proceed with the care that you needed. Okay. Take it from there.

Right.

Right.

I'll tell you what disturbs me, and I'm glad you're telling the story behind it, is that is the fact of taking advantage of a medical situation, okay, where that needed to be foremost dealt with, okay, as opposed to, oh, by the way, you know, you should be part of this initiative. No. So what comes out of this, and Tony, maybe you can respond to this,

I'll tell you what disturbs me, and I'm glad you're telling the story behind it, is that is the fact of taking advantage of a medical situation, okay, where that needed to be foremost dealt with, okay, as opposed to, oh, by the way, you know, you should be part of this initiative. No. So what comes out of this, and Tony, maybe you can respond to this,

is it's one thing that the care that you got one way or the other, but it's also the mental anguish.

is it's one thing that the care that you got one way or the other, but it's also the mental anguish.

Okay, and I don't think that that's, well, obviously, I don't think that's fair, but I greatly, greatly appreciate the fact that you're telling the story because you get a sense of the mental anguish that you were going through, besides the actual medical condition that you were trying to deal with. Go ahead.

Okay, and I don't think that that's, well, obviously, I don't think that's fair, but I greatly, greatly appreciate the fact that you're telling the story because you get a sense of the mental anguish that you were going through, besides the actual medical condition that you were trying to deal with. Go ahead.

So here's, I think the unfortunate part of this is the context of how these all kind of came together. On one hand, you're dealing with a stroke. On the other hand, you're dealing with somebody who's saying, come back to the hospital. On the other hand, you're also talking about somebody who's saying, be part of an experiment. And you know what?

So here's, I think the unfortunate part of this is the context of how these all kind of came together. On one hand, you're dealing with a stroke. On the other hand, you're dealing with somebody who's saying, come back to the hospital. On the other hand, you're also talking about somebody who's saying, be part of an experiment. And you know what?

context, the contextual framework that surrounded your particular case here, Tony, in my estimation, is unfortunate and wrong. Okay. But what is really positive about it is how we can learn from it, how we can learn as providers of care, how we can learn as human beings. And I don't care what color you are. That's why I I really promote human partnership, H-U-E-M-A-N.

context, the contextual framework that surrounded your particular case here, Tony, in my estimation, is unfortunate and wrong. Okay. But what is really positive about it is how we can learn from it, how we can learn as providers of care, how we can learn as human beings. And I don't care what color you are. That's why I I really promote human partnership, H-U-E-M-A-N.

It doesn't matter what color we are, when it really comes down to these types of things. Clarence, some final thoughts here.