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Dr. Trangle has an illustrious career in dealing with mental health. And he keeps a real positive attitude about it. And it's greatly appreciated. He's a distinguished lifetime fellow of the American Psychiatric Association, a media past president of the Minnesota Psychiatric Society.

He was on the National Quality Forum Standing Behavioral Health Measurement Committee, participates in a lot of policy-oriented issues around mental health, certainly in the state of Minnesota, and is noted nationally to provide some insight as well. So Mike, thanks again, really. Greatly appreciate you being with us today.

He was on the National Quality Forum Standing Behavioral Health Measurement Committee, participates in a lot of policy-oriented issues around mental health, certainly in the state of Minnesota, and is noted nationally to provide some insight as well. So Mike, thanks again, really. Greatly appreciate you being with us today.

A few years. Okay. So it wasn't immediate past. It was in the past.

A few years. Okay. So it wasn't immediate past. It was in the past.

But nonetheless.

But nonetheless.

Okay, okay, okay.

Okay, okay, okay.

So thanks for being with us. So, all right, let's get this one going here. You know, this is kind of the angst that I have felt around health issues as it relates to policy. There are some health-related issues that get a lot of funding. They get a lot of research dollars. et cetera, et cetera.

So thanks for being with us. So, all right, let's get this one going here. You know, this is kind of the angst that I have felt around health issues as it relates to policy. There are some health-related issues that get a lot of funding. They get a lot of research dollars. et cetera, et cetera.

And, you know, I certainly can relate to that, you know, when I was dealing with cardiovascular issues at the state health department. But there always seems to be an angst or a disconnect between truly what is needed in the mental health arena, and God knows we need help in this arena, and those particular policy needs. So Mike, to kind of get this going, do you sense that as well?

And, you know, I certainly can relate to that, you know, when I was dealing with cardiovascular issues at the state health department. But there always seems to be an angst or a disconnect between truly what is needed in the mental health arena, and God knows we need help in this arena, and those particular policy needs. So Mike, to kind of get this going, do you sense that as well?

Do you see that it's a harder sell for mental health issues from a policy perspective than perhaps some of the other clinically oriented issues and diseases and manifestations that we all deal with?

Do you see that it's a harder sell for mental health issues from a policy perspective than perhaps some of the other clinically oriented issues and diseases and manifestations that we all deal with?

Has it gotten better?

Has it gotten better?

So, Clarence, before I pass the baton to you, it's like you're involved in the community a lot.

So, Clarence, before I pass the baton to you, it's like you're involved in the community a lot.

And I can't help but think that you see some of these true mental health issues. So besides, you know, some of the thoughts that you have in general, you might want to add that into the equation here.