Stan

You know, it's interesting. For many years, I worked with youth in a psychiatric setting, actually. And I remember having discussions with kids who were suicidal. And which was, you know, it was quite sad. And, you know, I remember walking away from the hospital once and thinking to myself, wow, a lot of these kids, especially, you know, teenagers have the illusion of immortality.

OK, it's not going to happen to me. You know, I got many, many years in front of me, et cetera, et cetera. But yet I remember talking to some of these kids who faced death. They saw death. Somebody dear to them passed away. And then all of a sudden that so-called illusion of immortality that these younger people had was compromised. And it was a wake up call for many of them.

OK, it's not going to happen to me. You know, I got many, many years in front of me, et cetera, et cetera. But yet I remember talking to some of these kids who faced death. They saw death. Somebody dear to them passed away. And then all of a sudden that so-called illusion of immortality that these younger people had was compromised. And it was a wake up call for many of them.

So let me tell you a couple of things. And, you know, Clarence and I kind of share a little bit of this together. I have made a distinction as I've gotten older between a death that is sad and a death that is tragic. And let me give you an illustration. My father passed away when I was 24 years old, okay? And to me, that was, it was devastating. It was sad and tragic, okay? And I remember

So let me tell you a couple of things. And, you know, Clarence and I kind of share a little bit of this together. I have made a distinction as I've gotten older between a death that is sad and a death that is tragic. And let me give you an illustration. My father passed away when I was 24 years old, okay? And to me, that was, it was devastating. It was sad and tragic, okay? And I remember

sitting in the hearse, going to the cemetery. I was sitting next to my uncle and he put his arms around me and he said, Stan, you will have a hole in your heart for the rest of your life, but you will learn how to cope with it. And those words of wisdoms have stuck with me for a long, well, forever, okay?

sitting in the hearse, going to the cemetery. I was sitting next to my uncle and he put his arms around me and he said, Stan, you will have a hole in your heart for the rest of your life, but you will learn how to cope with it. And those words of wisdoms have stuck with me for a long, well, forever, okay?

Another thing that I learned, and then Clarence, I know you have good stories on this too, was what people say to you. I believe that people, friends, colleagues, family, whatever, when you have lost somebody, they feel compelled to say something like, I'm sorry for your loss.

Another thing that I learned, and then Clarence, I know you have good stories on this too, was what people say to you. I believe that people, friends, colleagues, family, whatever, when you have lost somebody, they feel compelled to say something like, I'm sorry for your loss.

Whether that's said right to you in person or even through vehicles that we have now, social media or what have you, sorry for your loss. And I'll be honest with you, for me, that statement, I understand the intent. Don't get me wrong. I understand the intent, but for me, the statement became almost vacuous where it kind of lost its sense of meaning.

Whether that's said right to you in person or even through vehicles that we have now, social media or what have you, sorry for your loss. And I'll be honest with you, for me, that statement, I understand the intent. Don't get me wrong. I understand the intent, but for me, the statement became almost vacuous where it kind of lost its sense of meaning.

On the other hand, I remember distinctly a very, very dear friend of my father's when my father passed away and he came to visit us at our house. And there were a lot of people in our home at that time. In Judaism, you do this thing called Shiva, which I can talk about later. But he came into the house and all this verbal banter was going on in our home.

On the other hand, I remember distinctly a very, very dear friend of my father's when my father passed away and he came to visit us at our house. And there were a lot of people in our home at that time. In Judaism, you do this thing called Shiva, which I can talk about later. But he came into the house and all this verbal banter was going on in our home.

And he came in and I knew this man very, very closely in all he did. was put his hand on my shoulder. He did not say a word, but let me tell you, I can still, to this day, feel his hand on my shoulder. Nothing was said verbally, but that to me stuck with me more than anything. Clarence, so things that you've gone through,

And he came in and I knew this man very, very closely in all he did. was put his hand on my shoulder. He did not say a word, but let me tell you, I can still, to this day, feel his hand on my shoulder. Nothing was said verbally, but that to me stuck with me more than anything. Clarence, so things that you've gone through,

Sheridan, do you have a comment?

Sheridan, do you have a comment?

You know, and that's a, that's a theme that, um, Dr. Barry Baines talked about when we had him on our show, um, previously on, um, living wills basically is what that's about. So, um, To your point, Sharon, yes, there's a will. In other words, what you really want. And by the way, wills are something that can change over the course of your life. Another is power of attorney.

You know, and that's a, that's a theme that, um, Dr. Barry Baines talked about when we had him on our show, um, previously on, um, living wills basically is what that's about. So, um, To your point, Sharon, yes, there's a will. In other words, what you really want. And by the way, wills are something that can change over the course of your life. Another is power of attorney.

In other words, you don't want to leave. It's like when you die, you don't want to leave a headache with everything. And then there's a healthcare directive. And I have a little funny story to tell about that. So my son is an attorney and my daughter is a quality improvement engineer in the healthcare arena. So when Janet and I were putting together all this stuff, if we're both gone,