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However, on the other end of the equation is the American Indian and Alaskan Native, which is relatively high, and then I guess maybe really high, and then followed by white, Hispanic, et cetera. Any thoughts about just race in general and maybe what we're seeing here, besides just the numbers, any guesses on why it might be higher in American Indian and Alaskan Native, for instance?

Yeah. You know, it's interesting, um, Clarence, I w I was on that same wavelength a little bit. Um, but I used a different word stigma. There's, you know, there's a particular, I think stigma that, um, people attach to, um, suicide, um, You know, like if it happens to someone that you know or is dear to you, it's like you say, what the heck?

Yeah. You know, it's interesting, um, Clarence, I w I was on that same wavelength a little bit. Um, but I used a different word stigma. There's, you know, there's a particular, I think stigma that, um, people attach to, um, suicide, um, You know, like if it happens to someone that you know or is dear to you, it's like you say, what the heck?

Why didn't they get some kind of intervention to help them, okay? And to a certain extent, It relates to more of a chronic condition. You know, you just don't, it just doesn't happen. At least I think it doesn't happen. The ideas behind this just don't happen overnight. Where with homicide, it like happens. It's an acute event and boom, that's it. So I think there's a little bit of stigma.

Why didn't they get some kind of intervention to help them, okay? And to a certain extent, It relates to more of a chronic condition. You know, you just don't, it just doesn't happen. At least I think it doesn't happen. The ideas behind this just don't happen overnight. Where with homicide, it like happens. It's an acute event and boom, that's it. So I think there's a little bit of stigma.

All right, I've got another question for Stefan here. Ready? All right. So, you know, I'm looking at your data here and it's interesting, like between the ages of 20 and 59 or 60, the rates are, you know, higher. Then all of a sudden it takes this kind of dip into the 60s. So what's going on there? Are we just wiser or we, you know, for those of us that are either in our 60s or 70s,

All right, I've got another question for Stefan here. Ready? All right. So, you know, I'm looking at your data here and it's interesting, like between the ages of 20 and 59 or 60, the rates are, you know, higher. Then all of a sudden it takes this kind of dip into the 60s. So what's going on there? Are we just wiser or we, you know, for those of us that are either in our 60s or 70s,

We've gone through it. We've dealt with stress. We kind of get it. And so it's like, okay, everybody, chill out a little bit here. Or what is it that between, what do you think it is, I guess, between 20 and 60 that the rates are higher than like in the 60s or early 70s?

We've gone through it. We've dealt with stress. We kind of get it. And so it's like, okay, everybody, chill out a little bit here. Or what is it that between, what do you think it is, I guess, between 20 and 60 that the rates are higher than like in the 60s or early 70s?

You know, I wonder if a big variable is just work. Okay. So like, you know, from your twenties to your, you know, mid sixties, 70, um, you're, you know, you're, you're working and, um, then all of a sudden, thank goodness I'm done with that. Okay. That's that stressor is like gone. And, um,

You know, I wonder if a big variable is just work. Okay. So like, you know, from your twenties to your, you know, mid sixties, 70, um, you're, you know, you're, you're working and, um, then all of a sudden, thank goodness I'm done with that. Okay. That's that stressor is like gone. And, um,

And basically during those years in the 60s, 70s, etc., it's maybe adjustment factors for people as opposed to incredible stressors like from work or bringing up a family or paying for college tuitions and all this other kind of stuff. Again, I'm only putting a guess out there as well.

And basically during those years in the 60s, 70s, etc., it's maybe adjustment factors for people as opposed to incredible stressors like from work or bringing up a family or paying for college tuitions and all this other kind of stuff. Again, I'm only putting a guess out there as well.

So let's talk about geographic, since you mentioned that, because certainly in the state of Minnesota, again, I don't know what's going on nationally. I'm guessing it's similar, but it's significantly higher in rural areas, okay? And has that been pretty much true over the years that we've been collecting that it's higher in rural areas than in like in metropolitan areas?

So let's talk about geographic, since you mentioned that, because certainly in the state of Minnesota, again, I don't know what's going on nationally. I'm guessing it's similar, but it's significantly higher in rural areas, okay? And has that been pretty much true over the years that we've been collecting that it's higher in rural areas than in like in metropolitan areas?

Yeah, that's great.

Yeah, that's great.

So I wonder if it's, you know, a function of access to care.

So I wonder if it's, you know, a function of access to care.

if you're in an environment at least where you know you might have a chance to get some help, that might be a factor as opposed to out in the middle of nowhere and you don't know where to turn. Again, I'm only thinking human behavior wise. Clarence.