Stan

Hold on, Claire.

I can relate.

You know, you're like Holocaust survivors, you know, and then they tell their story to their children and then their children kind of go through, I can imagine, can go through what you're talking about.

Clarence, go ahead.

Yeah, it's an incredible story.

As you were talking, my dog got stressed out because the recycling person is here.

No kidding.

So, you know, there's a whole bunch of different things that kind of came to my mind.

One thing that obviously you're touching on, Ida, is...

comorbidities right okay you know especially in the cardiovascular arena which you know i'm aware of because of my background but let's talk about that a little bit so it's one thing if you're if you're if you're diagnosed with ptsd but you're you're studying kind of the linkages with comorbidities in the case of cardiovascular disease so can you touch on that a little bit for us

Wow, that's a really interesting finding.

Barry, go ahead.

So my question is level of trauma.

What kicks in to an actual diagnosis of PTSD?

In other words, if somebody just witnesses something or if somebody is actually attacked or if somebody is hurt, what

At what point, medically speaking, what events, I guess, have to indicate PTSD?

I assume that some people are in that state, PTSD state, with a fairly minor trauma, where others...

kick into the diagnosis of PTSD with more major trauma.

So how is it that when we diagnose this, we make that distinction?

So there's a scale.