Stanley

Yeah. And, you know, I think there's confusion, too. Like, for instance, I remember just a quick story. I remember when I was out in D.C. and they were They were considering voting on the Affordable Care Act at the time. And there was a woman, I was standing in line at a museum, and there was this woman who was basically saying, I don't want the government involved in my health.

I mean, I just overheard this conversation, right? you know, being who I am, I guess I, you know, I turned around and I could tell that a little bit, a little bit. I turned around and I said, you know, I could tell that this person was a little bit on the older side. And I said, well, do you have Medicare? And she said, well, yeah, for sure.

I mean, I just overheard this conversation, right? you know, being who I am, I guess I, you know, I turned around and I could tell that a little bit, a little bit. I turned around and I said, you know, I could tell that this person was a little bit on the older side. And I said, well, do you have Medicare? And she said, well, yeah, for sure.

I said, well, that, you know, you just said you don't want government involved in your in your health, does that mean you don't want Medicare? Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I definitely want my Medicare. And so there's like on one hand, you know, the public can say one thing and the other hand, you know, they don't recognize the linkages

I said, well, that, you know, you just said you don't want government involved in your in your health, does that mean you don't want Medicare? Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I definitely want my Medicare. And so there's like on one hand, you know, the public can say one thing and the other hand, you know, they don't recognize the linkages

that um some of these programs provide so there's like you know the affordable care act is one there's you know medicare there's medicaid there's you know yeah even you know you can even say social security i mean you know as it links with These are things that people don't want to, on one hand, they'll say, I don't want government involved in my health.

that um some of these programs provide so there's like you know the affordable care act is one there's you know medicare there's medicaid there's you know yeah even you know you can even say social security i mean you know as it links with These are things that people don't want to, on one hand, they'll say, I don't want government involved in my health.

On the other hand, they don't want to give up these things that are given to them. So there's that back and forth, I think, that provides the confusion that leads to this confusion.

On the other hand, they don't want to give up these things that are given to them. So there's that back and forth, I think, that provides the confusion that leads to this confusion.

Do you think we, I mean, we could even ask ourselves, do we know what we should expect from government? What do we want from them, it, those entities, as far as our health is concerned? And then, so that's question one. Question two is trust. Where does trust fit into all of this?

Do you think we, I mean, we could even ask ourselves, do we know what we should expect from government? What do we want from them, it, those entities, as far as our health is concerned? And then, so that's question one. Question two is trust. Where does trust fit into all of this?

Again, if you reflect on what we did during the COVID pandemic at its height, I think that a lot of people all of a sudden expected certain things. just out of the gate. They expected it because they didn't know what to do. And so there was this expectation and then trust got compromised. And I think that's where politics and the politicians got involved in all of it.

Again, if you reflect on what we did during the COVID pandemic at its height, I think that a lot of people all of a sudden expected certain things. just out of the gate. They expected it because they didn't know what to do. And so there was this expectation and then trust got compromised. And I think that's where politics and the politicians got involved in all of it.

And it created communication problems that created confusion, et cetera. So I don't know, Clarence, what do you think? What should we expect?

And it created communication problems that created confusion, et cetera. So I don't know, Clarence, what do you think? What should we expect?

All right. So let me dig deeper on that one. As far as access, access to what specifically? For instance, when we're talking about access to care, then we're talking about linking that with insurance. Okay. And the government, you know, there's only limited access. government-oriented health care insurance. So, I mean, you know, all right, Medicare being one, let's just talk that for a second.

All right. So let me dig deeper on that one. As far as access, access to what specifically? For instance, when we're talking about access to care, then we're talking about linking that with insurance. Okay. And the government, you know, there's only limited access. government-oriented health care insurance. So, I mean, you know, all right, Medicare being one, let's just talk that for a second.

But government isn't really involved with private health insurance.

But government isn't really involved with private health insurance.

The health plans do that, though.