Stefan Burns

Z13-1, observed to exist just 330 million years after the Big Bang.

um in images taken by webb's ni nurcam near infrared camera as part of james webb's space telescope advanced deep extra galactic survey researchers use the galaxy's brightness in different infrared filters to estimate its red right it's red shipped which matches see i had a dude on here recently i was trying to show this to me and he was trying to tell me this was like some croc pseudoscience but this is on nasa's website

So this thing is so old and so big, they have to push the timeline back because of the red shift.

Yeah, but it can lead – the problem with that too is it can lead in the opposite direction where it's like nothing that the science and like the academic science or these whatever you want to call them, so-called gatekeepers say is true.

Like everything they say is a lie and everything's a cover-up and everything's a conspiracy and everything is not what it seems and it's like –

it just becomes this crazy cult type mentality that people have, especially online.

Well, it's crazy.

I mean, just, you know, to use a recent example of that three eye Atlas, it was like, you know, you saw like,

incredible division online of what this thing could have been.

You had either it was a space alien spaceship coming from, you know, some other star system or it's just a comet, right?

Like there's no in between there.

it's become this game of questioning people's motives instead of actually interpret, interpreting the data and attacking the substance of what is happening.

And you know, when you're just reading stuff online or like watching YouTube videos and you don't really have the time to like look at this stuff and like look at the raw data and come to some sort of conclusion, it's like, you know, all you can do is just rely on other people's interpretations of stuff.

And oftentimes you're going to get that wrong.

I haven't really.

I heard that.

So Avi was telling us that it was like December 16th was when it was going to be closest to Earth, right?

And that was the time that we were going to have like the best shot at it to figure out what it was.

And I haven't heard anything about it since.

Have you been tracking it?