Steph McGovern

So, yes, he has been staying nearby with a local business person.

But it's interesting because every time Farage goes to a venue around here, the division is unbelievable.

So there was a local business that had posted that Farage had been in and they got up.

Absolutely annihilated by people then saying, we're not going to come and buy stuff from you anymore.

Where, you know, like the local restaurants.

And you're like, oh my God, this.

And what they saw, the business was, oh, this is a chance for a bit of publicity.

You know, and then they ended up having to come out and say, we don't have any political views.

And it's quite unbelievable.

But yes, he is spending a lot of time here.

Yeah, there are.

At the arena, I think it was in Sunderland, the queues were insane.

It was like people absolutely desperate to get a glimpse of him.

So, yeah, there's a... But that division is really palpable.

And secondly, you know, it'll support jobs.

Skills is the biggest problem around a lot of the energy stuff is when we're not bringing through enough people who can do all the, you know, the jobs that we need and we haven't got enough coming through learning all the clean energy things as well.

But,

Just on the point of Miliband, this idea of delinking the cost of electricity from gas.

So this is the sense that currently the price of electricity is dragged up by the price of gas because that's what they use to work out the price.

Even if that electricity comes from cheaper sources like wind or nuclear or whatever, the price it's sold at is dictated by the wholesale gas world price.