Steph McMahon

So it was just like a whim kind of thing?

You loved the attention.

And well, I mean, you can go back and psychoanalyze everything.

Right.

So it's like if you feel for some reason growing up that you don't not that you feel this way, but you don't get the attention that that you want from the people you love the most for whatever reason that you seek it.

And attention can feel so good.

Right.

And I think you can mistake it for love.

And holes that might have felt like were there.

So it's a very normal, natural thing, you know, to seek it.

It doesn't make you a bad person or that it was a bad side of you.

It was just a side of you that needed something.

It's just the, the why.

You know, the why the attention, regardless of the decisions that went into that.

Yeah, so you don't have to talk about specifically what happened.

What happened after?

I think people are always trying to figure out who they are and like, what is my identity?

Right.

I hear that so often.

And you went through it so publicly and that's so hard.