Stephanie Soo

Mary knows that's not what happened.

I mean, this is an example of how her parents would make her feel fear.

She thinks that they likely purchased an animal and as a five-year-old, you are told what you're seeing and you believe it.

She believes that there's no way that they were slaughtering actual fetuses or babies, but probably some sort of animal and showing her what they're capable of so that she would stay quiet.

And the biggest thing with the FMSF, the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, is that they believe any and all allegations of abuse like these based on memory and not medical analysis or CCTV camera footage or just like a, hey, I know what happened because I was there.

They believe that they all need corroborating.

How do you corroborate that?

And it's interesting because during the interviews that Mary has with Pamela and Eleanor Goldstein,

They act like Mary doesn't have any corroborating evidence, like zero, none.

But Mary does.

Mary's cousin actually remembered abuse nine years before Mary did.

She reached out to Mary to tell her that she had been abused as a kid by her father.

So this would have been Mary's uncle.

Mary remembers, I had just become a mother.

I brought my infant son with me.

I sat with her on an old faded couch.

I breastfed my son while I listened to her heartfelt recollections.

And when she finished, so this is the time when Mary was working as a social worker.

So she's very good at listening to people.

She's also very good at identifying gaps in stories because, you know, you're interviewing parents to see if they're fit enough to take care of their children.