Stephanie Soo

And they want us to believe them and not the daughters.

Also, another thing with Dr. Jennifer Freid, she says, I mean, to come out as an abuse survivor when I was like a doctor and being a professor, it's career suicide.

It's career self-exit.

Especially at the time that I came out with my accusations, it's not a time where people are rallying around survivors, especially in academia.

It's not like 2025.

Yeah.

And even 2025, look what's happening in the Hockey Canada case.

Like no one is, it's crazy.

But she says that she also had recovered memories.

So it seems like almost all the members of this foundation have a strong motive to say that these are false memories.

They have a lot of skin in the game.

Eleanor tells Mary during their interview, we have to help each other forgive and understand and have empathy and not carry grudges forever and ever.

She says, bizarrely, he touched me.

Oh my God, he touched me.

And therefore he touched me and he's dead.

He's dead.

Like he's dead to me, I guess is what she's saying.

And just with all due respect, these individuals are insane.

Eleanor Goldstein tells Mary, I don't think sexual touch is the horror of horrors.

I think we make a big to-do about nothing.