Stephanie Young

It's never been that, never will be.

And anyone that says, well, this is why we shouldn't believe women, I never like those comments.

I never agree with them.

That's a dysfunctional mindset.

Clayton's never seen this as some broader commentary on women.

To him, it's always been about one person, Laura Owens.

Laura is one woman that has...

left a stain greater than just impacting me and the previous victims.

This is going to potentially hurt women from being believed in the future.

I don't want to be associated with a movement where we believe women less.

I don't want that.

What I want is for people to believe victims and that's it.

I wanted to end this series by finally hearing from Laura Owens herself.

And believe me, we've been trying.

On at least five separate occasions, we've sent her or her attorney a request for an interview, starting as far back as May 2025, nine months before the podcast came out.

I heard from Laura as recently as last week.

We'll talk about her emails later in this episode.

And even though we've asked, she still hasn't agreed to sit for an interview on the record.

I've been asked why we're not hearing more from Laura's side.

And it's this simple.