Stephen A. Smith

And then the sort of right-wing media ecosystem took off, sort of powered by Facebook. So the Breitbart era, Daily Caller. Right around 2014, it's like we stopped having the same reality. We were having completely different conversations. And it is – so that speaks to governing. And in politics, it is –

And then the sort of right-wing media ecosystem took off, sort of powered by Facebook. So the Breitbart era, Daily Caller. Right around 2014, it's like we stopped having the same reality. We were having completely different conversations. And it is – so that speaks to governing. And in politics, it is –

The difference has been that – and I think this might be changing a little bit for better, probably for worse – is that Democrats had a media diet that was primarily legacy media. Still, we're serving the New York Times, still it's NPR. Maybe it would skew a little on the more left-leaning part of that legacy media diet, but it was traditional media abiding by the –

The difference has been that – and I think this might be changing a little bit for better, probably for worse – is that Democrats had a media diet that was primarily legacy media. Still, we're serving the New York Times, still it's NPR. Maybe it would skew a little on the more left-leaning part of that legacy media diet, but it was traditional media abiding by the –

rules of journalism as commonly understood. And the Republicans had shifted to something totally different that did not abide by and often sort of spat in the face of those rules. And now we are fully in that moment where the Trump administration and Republicans writ large, up and down, it's not just in Washington, it's everywhere, exist in this wholly other media ecosystem.

rules of journalism as commonly understood. And the Republicans had shifted to something totally different that did not abide by and often sort of spat in the face of those rules. And now we are fully in that moment where the Trump administration and Republicans writ large, up and down, it's not just in Washington, it's everywhere, exist in this wholly other media ecosystem.

And that media ecosystem is becoming

And that media ecosystem is becoming

much less clear to anyone else because it's not just it's not like you like yes you could turn on fox news and that would be a very good idiot's guide to what the right is thinking but that's often i think in this day and age is kind of a lagging indicator of what's really bubbling up like are you like do you know what's happening on rumble are you watching so you know are you listening to the daily wire or reading barry weiss or some of these other things that are um yeah those are really affecting and

much less clear to anyone else because it's not just it's not like you like yes you could turn on fox news and that would be a very good idiot's guide to what the right is thinking but that's often i think in this day and age is kind of a lagging indicator of what's really bubbling up like are you like do you know what's happening on rumble are you watching so you know are you listening to the daily wire or reading barry weiss or some of these other things that are um yeah those are really affecting and

Yeah, that's a very, I mean, it's an incredibly fragmented system that you're describing. And I mean, like, right, like, there's a big distance between Rumble and Barry Weiss. These are all different things. I don't think there are parts of it.

Yeah, that's a very, I mean, it's an incredibly fragmented system that you're describing. And I mean, like, right, like, there's a big distance between Rumble and Barry Weiss. These are all different things. I don't think there are parts of it.

I think that I was talking to a really prominent conservative podcaster who was saying that, you know, they spent a lot of their time complaining about the, you know, journalists and everything they get wrong. And then once more, there'll be a holiday. And they're like, where is the flow of news for me to talk about? It's so annoying.

I think that I was talking to a really prominent conservative podcaster who was saying that, you know, they spent a lot of their time complaining about the, you know, journalists and everything they get wrong. And then once more, there'll be a holiday. And they're like, where is the flow of news for me to talk about? It's so annoying.

And it's like, oh, all the people I hate are taking vacation with their kids. And so there's no fodder for me. There's no underlying information. I do think there's this question that gets kicked around sometimes. Actually, Tucker Carlson founded The Daily Caller to solve this. It did not. Which is that there's no real... center-right, far-right reporting apparatus or not much of one.

And it's like, oh, all the people I hate are taking vacation with their kids. And so there's no fodder for me. There's no underlying information. I do think there's this question that gets kicked around sometimes. Actually, Tucker Carlson founded The Daily Caller to solve this. It did not. Which is that there's no real... center-right, far-right reporting apparatus or not much of one.

Actually, one of the things that distinguishes Breitbart from the others is they do some original reporting. Most of the places, a lot of the places that in that world, podcasters are really commentating and reacting or reacting to things they've seen on social media, which really are often made up.

Actually, one of the things that distinguishes Breitbart from the others is they do some original reporting. Most of the places, a lot of the places that in that world, podcasters are really commentating and reacting or reacting to things they've seen on social media, which really are often made up.

And there's like a lack of a kind of baseline of, yeah, I mean, it would be healthy if the Trump movement developed more reporting muscles, honestly. Yeah.

And there's like a lack of a kind of baseline of, yeah, I mean, it would be healthy if the Trump movement developed more reporting muscles, honestly. Yeah.