Stephen A. Smith

Like I think the reason that email newsletters are very popular is they actually kind of print, like they force a kind of hierarchy of saying what's important. They force a kind of concision because they're not infinite. And I think that's made them very popular.

Like I think the reason that email newsletters are very popular is they actually kind of print, like they force a kind of hierarchy of saying what's important. They force a kind of concision because they're not infinite. And I think that's made them very popular.

And I think, so I guess I, I mean, I'm obviously an optimist because I wouldn't still be doing this stuff, but I do think that the current, the status quo in some ways is kind of untenable. And the fragmentation commercially is extremely annoying too. Like how many subsects do you want to subscribe to? How many different streaming services are you going to pay for?

And I think, so I guess I, I mean, I'm obviously an optimist because I wouldn't still be doing this stuff, but I do think that the current, the status quo in some ways is kind of untenable. And the fragmentation commercially is extremely annoying too. Like how many subsects do you want to subscribe to? How many different streaming services are you going to pay for?

Like, and I think there's a very aggressive push and will be over the next couple of years to reconsolidate that stuff, like for better or for worse, but you'll have one subscription to newsletters. You'll have two streaming services, they'll all swallow each other.

Like, and I think there's a very aggressive push and will be over the next couple of years to reconsolidate that stuff, like for better or for worse, but you'll have one subscription to newsletters. You'll have two streaming services, they'll all swallow each other.

Again, that could be bad or that could be good, but I think that experience of just absolute disorientation and fragmentation is terrible and everyone knows it. And so there are a lot of opportunities to fix it.

Again, that could be bad or that could be good, but I think that experience of just absolute disorientation and fragmentation is terrible and everyone knows it. And so there are a lot of opportunities to fix it.

Yeah, the question I think, I agree with that. We're sort of in a moment and this is not, you can have the same conversation about you know, just content services beyond news, right?

Yeah, the question I think, I agree with that. We're sort of in a moment and this is not, you can have the same conversation about you know, just content services beyond news, right?

Like, are you really going to, are you going to really pay for how many people are, how many stream services are going to pay for, you know, YouTube TV, which has become very popular is basically just cable through the internet, right? Where it's like, it looks at the same format. So how are you going to like, is there a way to get back to it? But I wanted to sort of get back to the, um,

Like, are you really going to, are you going to really pay for how many people are, how many stream services are going to pay for, you know, YouTube TV, which has become very popular is basically just cable through the internet, right? Where it's like, it looks at the same format. So how are you going to like, is there a way to get back to it? But I wanted to sort of get back to the, um,

the role of the media because it like yeah like we're like you and i are like right now this conversation about distribution is about the business of media right like how do you because ultimately you need readers to make money whether that's gonna be subscriptions or average or how you get ads in front of people or whatever that is just to stop you though i because i see where you're like i think i agree with where you're going the extent to which all of everything we're talking about the chaos the disruption

the role of the media because it like yeah like we're like you and i are like right now this conversation about distribution is about the business of media right like how do you because ultimately you need readers to make money whether that's gonna be subscriptions or average or how you get ads in front of people or whatever that is just to stop you though i because i see where you're like i think i agree with where you're going the extent to which all of everything we're talking about the chaos the disruption

is all fundamentally driven by these huge technological shifts and business shifts. That is the underlying thing here. It's not little choices made by journalists here and there.

is all fundamentally driven by these huge technological shifts and business shifts. That is the underlying thing here. It's not little choices made by journalists here and there.

No, no, no, no. I fundamentally agree with that. And it is... I think you can... You pointed out a couple of examples. You can point back at various choices made by people in the media. You do two things. You do the business of media, like giving away your product for free on the internet for a few years, probably in hindsight not the best move, or...

No, no, no, no. I fundamentally agree with that. And it is... I think you can... You pointed out a couple of examples. You can point back at various choices made by people in the media. You do two things. You do the business of media, like giving away your product for free on the internet for a few years, probably in hindsight not the best move, or...

you know optimizing a Facebook or whatever else like you can do you can do some things you can also point to some journalistic choices that have eroded trust fairly or unfairly right you pick the Dan Rather just the entire coverage of the Iraq war in the run up to it that is the biggest one yeah Yeah.

you know optimizing a Facebook or whatever else like you can do you can do some things you can also point to some journalistic choices that have eroded trust fairly or unfairly right you pick the Dan Rather just the entire coverage of the Iraq war in the run up to it that is the biggest one yeah Yeah.