Stephen Carroll

This is an area where I think we're willing and happy to work with Democrats.

And I think there's a lot of Democrats who would like to see a single national framework as well.

I think they understand that it's not feasible or practical to have 50 states running in 50 different directions.

And I think if we can work something out, I think we could get to the one rulebook that the president's talking about.

David, looking at the composition of the council, you and I have spoken in the past that the definition of a China hawk, for example, and the context of exporting technology, it needs some discussion.

But on the chip side, the infrastructure side, those are a group of CEOs that want to sell their technology around the world.

Do you see that changing the president's current thinking on exporting cutting edge or lead edge chips to China or more generally in different jurisdictions around the world?

Well, I think this administration already has a pro-export mindset because we understand that the way that American technology wins and dominates the globe is through market share.

You want to have the most market share all over the world.

You want the American tech stack to become the global standard.

That's good for us economically.

I think it's also good in terms of national security and spreading our influence.

Now, whenever you're talking about countries of concern, China, potential adversaries, you have to be more careful and need a more nuanced policy.

And I think the administration has supported that.

But I think that in general, we want the world to be a place where American technology wins, as it did with the Internet.

That was David Sachs, co-chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology and partner at Kraft Ventures.

As Sachs calls for clearer rules around artificial intelligence, there's also a growing push to modernize how those rules are written and implemented within governments.

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Joe was a former advisor at the White House and U.S.

State Department under President Biden and joins us now.