Stephen Dubner

Because here we're usually like, you're just describing, well, if so-and-so does this, then they're aligned with that.

And if they're aligned with that, that means that.

And over there, a lot of conversations were much more like, that's a rock, don't trip over it.

This is what I think about when I'm making a show.

I always think, I don't want to make an about episode.

I want to make an of episode.

I feel like way too many of us are spending way too much time doing about thinking.

What do I think about this as opposed to what am I?

What am I doing?

What am I accomplishing?

And you can decide that as an individual.

The problem is once it gets up into the corporate realm where we are all as individuals,

Anybody who thinks that Twitter is their friend because it provides an open platform to do this and that, yes, that's partly true.

Most people by now understand that we are the product to a large degree.

It's like the New York Times where I used to work and which I still love as an institution.

I think it's still one of the greatest papers that ever will be.

I think a lot of the Times coverage in the last 15 or so years has been much more geared toward telling people how they should think about a particular news story as opposed to what the story is.

I completely agree.

You have what the story is pieced, but then it'll be surrounded and followed for days and weeks sometimes by opinion pieces.

I don't really need opinion pieces.