Stephen Dubner

It doesn't help that they supposedly killed off half of Europe in the Black Death. So most people respond to rats with disgust, fear, even anger. But not everyone. They're, in some sense, our natural city partner.

It doesn't help that they supposedly killed off half of Europe in the Black Death. So most people respond to rats with disgust, fear, even anger. But not everyone. They're, in some sense, our natural city partner.

It doesn't help that they supposedly killed off half of Europe in the Black Death. So most people respond to rats with disgust, fear, even anger. But not everyone. They're, in some sense, our natural city partner.

And that thing about the Black Death?

And that thing about the Black Death?

And that thing about the Black Death?

And just wait until you hear the backstory of the film Ratatouille. Can I just say, Ratatouille is an idea, as a story, it's an allegory. We have made a three-part series that we're thinking about calling Sympathy for the Rat. That starts next time on the show. Until then, take care of yourself. And if you can, someone else too. Freakonomics Radio is produced by Stitcher and Renbud Radio.

And just wait until you hear the backstory of the film Ratatouille. Can I just say, Ratatouille is an idea, as a story, it's an allegory. We have made a three-part series that we're thinking about calling Sympathy for the Rat. That starts next time on the show. Until then, take care of yourself. And if you can, someone else too. Freakonomics Radio is produced by Stitcher and Renbud Radio.

And just wait until you hear the backstory of the film Ratatouille. Can I just say, Ratatouille is an idea, as a story, it's an allegory. We have made a three-part series that we're thinking about calling Sympathy for the Rat. That starts next time on the show. Until then, take care of yourself. And if you can, someone else too. Freakonomics Radio is produced by Stitcher and Renbud Radio.

You can find our entire archive on any podcast app. It's also at Freakonomics.com, where we publish transcripts and show notes. This episode was produced by Tao Jacobs.

You can find our entire archive on any podcast app. It's also at Freakonomics.com, where we publish transcripts and show notes. This episode was produced by Tao Jacobs.

You can find our entire archive on any podcast app. It's also at Freakonomics.com, where we publish transcripts and show notes. This episode was produced by Tao Jacobs.

The Freakonomics Radio Network staff also includes Alina Kullman, Augusta Chapman, Dalvin Abouaji, Eleanor Osborne, Ellen Frankman, Elsa Hernandez, Gabriel Roth, Greg Rippin, Jasmine Klinger, Jeremy Johnston, John Schnarz, Morgan Levy, Neil Carruth, Sarah Lilly, and Zach Lipinski. Our theme song is Mr. Fortune by the Hitchhikers. And our composer is Luis Guerra. As always, thank you for listening.

The Freakonomics Radio Network staff also includes Alina Kullman, Augusta Chapman, Dalvin Abouaji, Eleanor Osborne, Ellen Frankman, Elsa Hernandez, Gabriel Roth, Greg Rippin, Jasmine Klinger, Jeremy Johnston, John Schnarz, Morgan Levy, Neil Carruth, Sarah Lilly, and Zach Lipinski. Our theme song is Mr. Fortune by the Hitchhikers. And our composer is Luis Guerra. As always, thank you for listening.

The Freakonomics Radio Network staff also includes Alina Kullman, Augusta Chapman, Dalvin Abouaji, Eleanor Osborne, Ellen Frankman, Elsa Hernandez, Gabriel Roth, Greg Rippin, Jasmine Klinger, Jeremy Johnston, John Schnarz, Morgan Levy, Neil Carruth, Sarah Lilly, and Zach Lipinski. Our theme song is Mr. Fortune by the Hitchhikers. And our composer is Luis Guerra. As always, thank you for listening.

Say the name of your book.

Say the name of your book.

Say the name of your book.

I've got it as why it goes wrong.

I've got it as why it goes wrong.