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Stephen Dubner

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Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

That's just like a spammy email alert.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Right.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Would this piano email that I got rise to the level of being reportable to the FTC?

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

OK, so let's hear from someone at the FTC.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Actually, Daffin left government recently after our interview to start her own consumer protection firm.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Anyway, the FTC began actively targeting scams in the 1960s and 70s during the consumer protection movement.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Those were the days of chain letters and sweepstakes fraud.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

In the 1990s, as part of what was called Project Telesweep, the FTC started collecting data on telemarketing fraud.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Today, it collects data on scams of all types and works with other government agencies to find and prosecute scammers.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Last year, there was a 25% increase in scam theft compared to the year before.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

So how much money is being scammed?

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

The FTC compiles a variety of data sets from complaints they receive directly, also from the Better Business Bureau and from state attorneys general and so on.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

They also try to account for under-reporting.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

And here's Marty DeLima again.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

I'm really glad you bring that up.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

That was something that drew me to this idea in the first place.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Because my feeling is that if you have to read every single email you get or answer every phone call or judge any in-person meeting,

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

through this filter of I may be being taken advantage of in some way, I mean, my reaction is just to say, well, I don't want to read any emails or get any phone calls or meet anybody.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

And when we look at the data in the U.S.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

in what's called social trust over the past 40 or 50 years, it really has declined a great deal.