Stephen Dubner

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14,500 appearances 96 recordings 4 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 3d ago

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Freakonomics Radio · 685. How to Survive the A.I. Shock · 4 Sep 2026 podcast

Here is a bit of background on Ramondo. voice-verified

She studied economics. voice-verified

As an undergrad, Harvard, then got a PhD in sociology, Oxford, and a law degree at Yale. voice-verified

Before getting into politics, she co-founded the only venture capital firm in Rhode Island. voice-verified

Raimondo has come to see economic instability as perhaps the biggest driver of political instability. voice-verified

I see that corporate profits have been rising strongly. voice-verified

And this has been going on for some time. voice-verified

This predates the AI boom. voice-verified

But the share of national income going to workers is at, or maybe near, but I think at a record low. voice-verified

I'm curious what you see as the causes of this big gap between wages and corporate profits. voice-verified

And I especially want to know what you see as the consequences. voice-verified

Like are we already living in the consequences and do they continue to worsen? voice-verified

So I look for data all over the place. voice-verified

And I have to say, when it comes to net job loss from AI, it's hard for me to be persuaded that anybody really knows what they're talking about. voice-verified

Because, you know, for every job that may be, quote, eliminated by AI, there are theoretically other jobs that could be, quote, created by AI because there are new needs and humans just keep wanting new and different stuff. voice-verified

That's the part that seems to get left. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

And that's not you saying that at all. voice-verified

I do wonder though voice-verified

Why you're persuaded that government, even state governments, should be the primary engine there. voice-verified

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