Stephen Godfrey

Um, he was also kind of, kind of resurrected the program, Lenore Ryan, which is in Hickory, North Carolina.

Um,

Alex, I would probably default to picking Toledo for all the reasons you stated, but we have no roster stability in this league.

Like, yes, but.

I don't know.

I mean, what does it say about Jason Candle leaving to go to freaking UConn?

Like, yeah.

Man, it's my New Year's resolution to come on this show, and if we do a Mac segment, try and make it positive, but it ain't going to be this one.

Yeah.

And the next conference we're going to is certifiable.

Bad shit.

Crazy.

Yeah, no, it's absolutely insane what Charles Kelly did.

It's also absolutely insane what Jerry Mack did.

Kennesaw State was one of the worst jobs, maybe still is, I don't know.

But man, what a debut season.

Earned him some, let's say, long looks, Richard, in the coaching side?

I don't know.

I'm not sure either, but it's like, do you get that Matt Campbell benefit of the doubt?

Are you getting the Oscar for your entire career or for one performance?