Stephen Herrick

He's a Guardian journalist and he's written a few travel books.

And so I always enjoy walking along or cycling along with him when he writes these books.

Well, at the moment, it's real comfort reading because I'm rereading my son's second book.

My son is a writer.

Oh, wow.

I know, I know.

Sorry, this sounds like a free plug, doesn't it?

I apologise.

No, it sounds like fatherly pride.

It is.

And his second book was out late last year.

It's called Heartland, How Rugby League Explains Queensland.

It's a very thick book.

So he's trying to make sense of that thing that is Queensland.

Both he and I are Queenslanders originally, so he's trying to make sense of it through the prism of rugby league.

And it's done pretty well so far, I'm pleased to say.

Oh, his name's Joe Gorman, G-O-R-M-A-N.

I did.

Last year, my wife and I went there mainly to pay homage at the Johnston Clift House that still stands, thankfully.

And even though they left 55 years ago, I only had to ask one waiter to find out where they lived.