Stephen Mayne

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4,168 appearances 11 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 8 Sep

Stephen Mayne’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The Money Café with Alan Kohler · Housing's Perfect Storm · 8 Sep 2026 podcast

And if you've got to borrow double the amount you used to relative to your income, then you're going to have your loan for twice as long.

And this is partly why we've got $3.5 trillion of household debt.

Well, I mean, probably 3.5 trillion in household debt because we've got 4.8 trillion in the super.

So people think they can borrow more because they're rich from super.

But look, you're right.

People can carry more debt, but the balance sheet impact means that if there's a house price reduction of 20%, then that really exacerbates the impact as well because you're carrying so much debt on your house.

$350,000 on average across all houses in Australia.

$350,000 average household debt.

Second highest in the world.

Now, Riz says, I've listened for years and have followed your commentary on AI closely.

I think there's an AI conversation that sits far beyond the usual discussion about markets and economic growth.

The pace at which frontier models are advancing combined with the number of incidents demonstrating misalignment means we need to take the alignment problem and existential risk far more seriously than

than we currently are.

And I think we should add to Risa's question that the chief scientist from OpenAI over the weekend, Alan, wrote an essay called An Alien Mind, and he was saying that broader interventions are required.

And he's worried about the pace of development and the damage that can be caused.

Joining the sort of Dario Amodi, Elon Musk and others who've made those predictions.

But no one ever has a specific fix for this, Helen, do they?

Everyone says AI could destroy us all.

It needs to be regulated.

But no one can ever come up with the actual solution.

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