Stephen McGuinness

How are you, David?

How are things?

Yeah, I suppose, David, it is interesting to listen to Dan there, and he gives the whole, obviously, the football side of everything.

And I thought the performance last night, first off, was as good as... It reminded me of an Irishman in 1994, Paul McGrath.

It was similar to that performance.

Yeah.

Joanne Stadium, you just mentioned it there, with Italy.

I thought Pico's performance last night was similar to that.

But I suppose, from a day-to-day perspective, he is chair of the PFA.

He's an activist.

He...

him along with Lee Stacey and Brendan Clarke two seasons ago fought for the minimum wage for professional footballers in Ireland to have a minimum wage that they could earn to be paid holiday pay and that's the side of it that people don't see he's part of the global council within the World Players Union where he gives his opinion on he firmly believes players need to have dual careers the majority of players David that you know don't earn enough money to retire

players in the League of Ireland, for example.

So Pico is very much one of the guys that wants to see that side of the game developed.

He wants to make sure that players, when they finish their career, they have something to fall back on.

And part of that global council in FIPRO gives them that platform to do that.

And even small things, like it was only just before the World Cup, Luis Cairns from Colossia, me and Avan,

I'd reach out for him to go and open up a pitch at the school.

And just before he flew out, he went up to school, met the 200 kids.

One of the kids had a Cape Verde shirt.