Stephen Stockwell

Yeah.

I mean, part of me did wonder whether or not, you know, there's just a kind of reluctance in South Australia to engage with anything that kind of resembles a body in a barrel scenario.

So I had that in the back of my mind.

But was it also that, you know, Jeffrey McLean wasn't a very sympathetic victim?

Yeah.

And something else that I wonder about, and, you know, we talked a lot about Jeffrey McLean through the podcast as well.

I mean, were there many kind of family members, supporters of Jeffrey McLean, you know, people kind of from his friends and family in the courtroom throughout this trial?

Yeah, it'd be really challenging having to kind of just not be in the room and not know what's going on.

But I also-

I also feel if I was a family member, being in the courtroom, I would feel probably kind of frustrated as well because of the way the court process unfolds.

It is so impersonal.

It removes so much of a person from the process because it's not about the individuals.

It's about the act and if there's guilt associated with that act.

So that becomes the focus of a courtroom.

And that, again, is how kind of people get lost in these moments and why as well we needed to be kind of careful during the coverage of this trial not to talk too much about anything personal

Outside of the courtroom or not to try and make Jeffrey McLean a sympathetic victim.

It's not our role to kind of be like, oh, look, here's this person that you should feel sorry for.

It's our role to kind of report what's going on and for people to understand how this is being explained in a courtroom.

That's the purpose of what we're doing as well.

And, you know, while there weren't family in the courtroom, we actually got a number of emails from people who knew Geoffrey Maclean.