Stephen Stockwell

Do we know exactly what that's referring to?

It will be interesting to see how it's explained in detail.

Yeah, yeah.

And I mean, speaking of the Facebook friends, that's another one of the grounds in this appeal is that, you know, the evidence from the Facebook friends, some of the Facebook messages shouldn't have been included, that, you know, it wasn't kind of relevant to the case.

And I mean, this is interesting as well.

And I'm trying not to lean too hard on the word interesting because don't want him getting your emails.

But we had this conversation a lot during the trial that there was no motive being presented for the murders that Erin Patterson committed.

So, you know, there was nothing that the prosecution could show as to why she had committed these acts.

But then

They also included these messages that showed this kind of frustration and disquiet between Aaron Patterson and the broader Patterson clan.

And, you know, there's this in the grounds, there seems to be one of them, which is basically saying prosecution said they weren't going to present a motive.

And then, you know, they kind of presented these messages and in their closing kind of started suggesting a motive.

Yeah, right.

So quite subtle, I guess, in the end.

You know, it's this sort of, you know, we're not doing this, but then there's also all these other things and the defence has kind of gone, well, actually, there's a line between them.

Yeah.

Another ground related to the closing in the appeal is that there was a substantial miscarriage of justice in that.

That is basically all that ground says.

There was a substantial miscarriage of justice in the closing.

Christian, do we know what that is or do we now need to wait and find out?