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Stephen Walt

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
62 total appearances

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The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

He wisely chose not to go to Baghdad to topple Saddam Hussein.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

His son, George W. Bush, made a different choice in 2003, even though Iraq was no longer a major threat and had no weapons of mass destruction.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

You all know how that crusade turned out.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

The resolution today, as Rudyard said, comes from a famous speech given by former President John Quincy Adams in 1821.

The Munk Debates Podcast
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To put Adams' remarks in modern terms, he was saying that America should not use its power to do regime change.

The Munk Debates Podcast
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We agree.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

As John will explain, toppling foreign governments to promote democracy almost always makes things worse.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

Replacing another country's political system is a vast social engineering project, usually done in places we barely understand.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

And the typical result is not a vibrant democracy, but chaos, destruction, and thousands of innocent dead.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

If you have any doubts, just look what happened in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya, or consider the damage the war on Iran has caused in just three months.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

Toppling foreign governments also undermines the principle of sovereignty that is the foundation of a rules-based order.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

If it's okay to overthrow a government that hasn't attacked us, then what's to stop anyone from taking territory that belongs to others, as Putin did in Crimea or as Donald Trump wants to do with Greenland?

The Munk Debates Podcast
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If it's acceptable to use force to topple a government you don't like, it's easy to justify assassinating its leaders, imposing sanctions that harm thousands of innocent civilians, or even torturing enemy prisoners.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

Remember those pictures from Abu Ghraib prison with 108 Iranian schoolgirls killed by a U.S.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

airstrike two months ago?

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

When we set out to destroy monsters, we end up doing monstrous things ourselves.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

Now, as realists, we know that necessity sometimes forces states to compromise their values.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

In World War II, for example, the United States allied with Joseph Stalin, who was a monster, to deal with a greater threat.

The Munk Debates Podcast
Foreign wars opening statements

But crusading to remake the world and sowing violence and suffering in the process does not make us safer or advance the cause of liberty.

The Munk Debates Podcast
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Instead of promoting freedom, we are denying it by imposing our will on others.