Stephen

And so it's this sort of... Because when we say these words like insecurity and shame, you'd think that I walk into the green room over there and I'm like, oh, that's not my life. But when I... Where I know that there's still something there is I go, how the, why are you still driving like this? Exactly. When you are so well aware that it will not lead to any more happiness in any context.

And so it's this sort of... Because when we say these words like insecurity and shame, you'd think that I walk into the green room over there and I'm like, oh, that's not my life. But when I... Where I know that there's still something there is I go, how the, why are you still driving like this? Exactly. When you are so well aware that it will not lead to any more happiness in any context.

Like, I'm so logically aware that becoming more will not have any impact on the things that matter yet anymore. Here I am still building businesses. And this is the constant thing I battle with. So I go, okay, well, there must be a force that you're consciously unaware of that's making you go, go on, go on.

Like, I'm so logically aware that becoming more will not have any impact on the things that matter yet anymore. Here I am still building businesses. And this is the constant thing I battle with. So I go, okay, well, there must be a force that you're consciously unaware of that's making you go, go on, go on.

100%.

100%.

Yeah, I was laughing because it's so true. Yeah. I was laughing at the fact that when I go to Bali, that's like where I end up writing a book.

Yeah, I was laughing because it's so true. Yeah. I was laughing at the fact that when I go to Bali, that's like where I end up writing a book.

To myself or just to the world?

To myself or just to the world?

I'm an entrepreneur. I am a, I guess I'm a podcaster now. And I am, I was going to say a Manchester United fan.

I'm an entrepreneur. I am a, I guess I'm a podcaster now. And I am, I was going to say a Manchester United fan.

Okay.

Okay.

I know it's weird. No, but does that, because we tend to look for solutions that involve action. Like, you know, buy that thing, make that list, go to that meeting, watch that thing. It's all about action, action, action as a solution to our problems.

I know it's weird. No, but does that, because we tend to look for solutions that involve action. Like, you know, buy that thing, make that list, go to that meeting, watch that thing. It's all about action, action, action as a solution to our problems.

So I was expecting you to tell me that the solution to everything we've discussed here is like the seven-step process of like, write this thing down, say this thing, and, you know.

So I was expecting you to tell me that the solution to everything we've discussed here is like the seven-step process of like, write this thing down, say this thing, and, you know.

For me?

For me?