Steve Ahlman

Then a little time jump to where you assume that people have processed things a little bit more and you see that literally Jackson is blooming again. The season has changed. But you still have people that are still negotiating the scars of not only what happened to Joel, but the attack, and they don't know how to move forward. So I thought that the episode had to do that, and it did do that.

It was very important.

It was very important.

It was very important.

They're not hitting it that far out. The kids ain't got no power.

They're not hitting it that far out. The kids ain't got no power.

They're not hitting it that far out. The kids ain't got no power.

Don't you dare. I was like, God damn, he is cooking. So I enjoyed the council scene. It was my favorite scene of the entire episode. Because while Ellie was able to deliver a really competent speech. I didn't think she had that in her bag.

Don't you dare. I was like, God damn, he is cooking. So I enjoyed the council scene. It was my favorite scene of the entire episode. Because while Ellie was able to deliver a really competent speech. I didn't think she had that in her bag.

Don't you dare. I was like, God damn, he is cooking. So I enjoyed the council scene. It was my favorite scene of the entire episode. Because while Ellie was able to deliver a really competent speech. I didn't think she had that in her bag.

But that was important, though, because even though she was obviously being insincere, it was important to show that she could demonstrate a level of savvy and control when she needed someone to do something that she wanted them to do. So there is, at some point, some discipline there. to get to the end that she wants. Even though it was all lies.

But that was important, though, because even though she was obviously being insincere, it was important to show that she could demonstrate a level of savvy and control when she needed someone to do something that she wanted them to do. So there is, at some point, some discipline there. to get to the end that she wants. Even though it was all lies.

But that was important, though, because even though she was obviously being insincere, it was important to show that she could demonstrate a level of savvy and control when she needed someone to do something that she wanted them to do. So there is, at some point, some discipline there. to get to the end that she wants. Even though it was all lies.

Even though it was all lies, she didn't get hyper-emotional and lose herself and go into all... And we see that throughout the episode where she's walking out of the hospital and she's conning Catherine O'Hara's character to make her believe that she's okay mentally. And then the really great push-in to her face as the illusion... of her being okay, like, legitimately wipes away.

Even though it was all lies, she didn't get hyper-emotional and lose herself and go into all... And we see that throughout the episode where she's walking out of the hospital and she's conning Catherine O'Hara's character to make her believe that she's okay mentally. And then the really great push-in to her face as the illusion... of her being okay, like, legitimately wipes away.

Even though it was all lies, she didn't get hyper-emotional and lose herself and go into all... And we see that throughout the episode where she's walking out of the hospital and she's conning Catherine O'Hara's character to make her believe that she's okay mentally. And then the really great push-in to her face as the illusion... of her being okay, like, legitimately wipes away.

And the rage comes out of her. She still wasn't able to get people, you know, to come with her to Seattle, but she was able to convince enough people to be on her side so that she had some support and going.

And the rage comes out of her. She still wasn't able to get people, you know, to come with her to Seattle, but she was able to convince enough people to be on her side so that she had some support and going.

And the rage comes out of her. She still wasn't able to get people, you know, to come with her to Seattle, but she was able to convince enough people to be on her side so that she had some support and going.

But if you're in therapy, a lot of times your therapist does that to you. You say something and they go, how profound? And you'll be like, you're not fucking with it, huh? And they'll be like, okay, now that you've said the really deep thing, let's get to how you're actually feeling. And then you go, I'm just in pain. Yeah. It works every time. So, I mean, that's part of it.