Steve Ahlman

Martin wrote this novella.

And it seems to me where he's just like, I want to talk about, to your point, what it is to be a knight.

What was a hedge knight?

Like what happens when, okay, there's no more dragons.

Maybe the stories that these knights were telling about themselves was a little bit appearance versus reality.

And you have this guy that's essentially just like this, like this oaf.

And you're realizing, at least this is where I think the story is going, is like, what makes him maybe more honorable than all of these knights who have the armor, who have the name, but are not necessarily protecting the realm in the way that he was taught?

And I'm like, okay, that's interesting.

Well, I think what's interesting about Sir Penny Tree and how...

dunk views him is that he's the type of mentor who is like his words he is teaching him in a vacuum what it means to be an honorable knight but it's coming from a messenger who does not follow his own rules and that's interesting to me where it's like what what you're seeing is dunk coming to a realization that his mentor was not who he thought he was

Where it's like maybe some of the lessons he was teaching him were important, but this man was not living by his own code.

And that is very true to real life where it's like, there are people with uncles that I grew up with.

Let's say, you know, it's like, all right, we got to uplift our sisters, like real hip hop, this and that.

And then you go through their life and all their mistakes.

You're like, you're not learning by the same code that you are telling me about.

And I think Dunk is going through that journey of just like, actually, who was my master now that he's gone?

Interesting.

He cannot get a word out.

What's wrong?

Well, can I talk about that?