Steve Ahlman

But then Liam Neeson and Nolan and co.

make a home run.

And that's a pretty great adaptation of that.

As far as when it comes to what kind of story that this is right for adapting, I think you're right.

Reeves is more interested, especially when it comes to just the first Batman movie that we got.

He is interested in what makes...

Gotham a character in a Batman story.

Yeah.

The story of this city, the story of the people that kind of like let this city fall from grace, be it either the people that are closest to Wayne or the people that are right outside that circle, that sphere of influence that Wayne, the entrepreneur and the businessman seems to ignore while he's being Batman.

I think it's great.

I'm really, really excited that Sebastian Stan can do it.

He's probably the most interesting of the Marvel alumni to do something post-MCU.

Say what you will about that Trump biopic, but he went full bore with it, and he was amazing in it.

He was being accountable.

Ghosted, yeah, that was so bad.

I hate this.

I'd imagine that probably starts shooting this year.

Like 2029?

Wait, so do you think it comes after Secret Wars, Black Panther 3?

Yeah, definitely after Secret Wars.