Steve Ahlman

I like the idea that that isn't going to be compromised in the end.

And that can hopefully be a happy, warm, fuzzy ending for me to love.

But I don't know.

And I think with what we talk about, like the ideas of like happy endings, we could probably interrogate more so the storyteller and what they want to intend.

When we think about like what heroes get and stand up against, it really ends up being what does this storyteller think this hero deserves at the end of all of that?

Do they deserve to die because it's a reflection of the world that they inhabit or do they deserve a happy ending because that heroism should be rewarded?

It's kind of up to the storyteller because they have their own agenda as to what they want to say about the world around them and what they make, which is probably why people love Game of Thrones so much because it's a bit more of a reflection of the real world.

The power corrupts, absolutely.

The people that are usually standing up for something great get cut down.

And this is something that I like to see happen.

I don't disagree.

Well, I think that's probably no better reflected than Baylor standing with Dunk at the end because he was going to be like, if they had just done the 1v1, Dunk would have been his proxy for his ideals.

for Baylor's ideals.

Well, but Baylor, but like, but, but the fact that it's like, okay, now you actually got to stand with this guy.

Are you going to do it?

With Vince Vaughn?

Yeah.

And Jen?

Yeah.

One of the most profound lines I've ever heard in my life.