Steve Arnott

Anyway, I think that is most of the news I have for this week.

Anyway, I think that is most of the news I have for this week.

There's one called the Mark Kenobi.

There's one called the Mark Kenobi.

Well, we couldn't have that because of licensing issues with Disney, so that's the only reason we had to exclude that.

Well, we couldn't have that because of licensing issues with Disney, so that's the only reason we had to exclude that.

Always the rogue.

Always the rogue.

If people listening are interested, it is available on Tabletopia online for you to play. So then the rule book's all there. So if you want to play it for yourself, it's free to play on there. So you can check it out there. And of course, the Kickstarter is launching on Tuesday. So if you want to get an actual pretty physical copy of it or a print-to-play version, you can get that as well.

If people listening are interested, it is available on Tabletopia online for you to play. So then the rule book's all there. So if you want to play it for yourself, it's free to play on there. So you can check it out there. And of course, the Kickstarter is launching on Tuesday. So if you want to get an actual pretty physical copy of it or a print-to-play version, you can get that as well.

Because I always find Tabletopia is really great, but it always feels a bit more fiddly than playing in real life. Maybe it's just I'm not very good at using tabletop simulator type things. But anyway, but that's just me. Yeah, but I wanted, well, I suggested Mark to come on today because I found, because I'm not a board game designer or a tabletop RPG designer, writer either.

Because I always find Tabletopia is really great, but it always feels a bit more fiddly than playing in real life. Maybe it's just I'm not very good at using tabletop simulator type things. But anyway, but that's just me. Yeah, but I wanted, well, I suggested Mark to come on today because I found, because I'm not a board game designer or a tabletop RPG designer, writer either.

So I was wondering, because you both of you are doing both those things. I was wondering what the differences are, what the similarities are, what sort of cross learnings you take on that. So I was hoping we could kind of discuss that today. So I guess, I guess, so I was going to interview both of you, actually, if that's okay. Okay.

So I was wondering, because you both of you are doing both those things. I was wondering what the differences are, what the similarities are, what sort of cross learnings you take on that. So I was hoping we could kind of discuss that today. So I guess, I guess, so I was going to interview both of you, actually, if that's okay. Okay.

why not jess why not so i guess the first thing i'd say is like so when you're approaching tabletop rpg design what are the big kind of considerations and things or how do you start that process like and russ i don't know what what do you do for that i don't know you don't know it just happens

why not jess why not so i guess the first thing i'd say is like so when you're approaching tabletop rpg design what are the big kind of considerations and things or how do you start that process like and russ i don't know what what do you do for that i don't know you don't know it just happens

I didn't say what's the best way to design a tabletop RPG. I asked what you do.

I didn't say what's the best way to design a tabletop RPG. I asked what you do.

Yeah, well, Mark, same question over to you then, I guess.

Yeah, well, Mark, same question over to you then, I guess.