Steve Bannon

And so after the Civil War, the 14th Amendment was enacted principally to undo Dred Scott, meaning that enslaved people, their children are citizens and will forevermore be citizens.

In fact, what the 14th Amendment says is that anyone born in this country are naturalized, right, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are U.S.

And so to answer your question, why is this before the Supreme Court?

It's because the president issued an executive order on his first day in his second term trying to undo what we think is the common understanding of the 14th Amendment.

And that's the problem I have with Donald Trump because he doesn't give a damn about that.

He doesn't care about that because he wants to get his way and he wants to appease a very small sect of Americans who don't like their fellow Americans.

and they don't like the people who are coming here because they don't look like them they don't sound like them they don't have their hair like them they don't they don't talk like they don't make the movements that they've defined as american so if nothing else the supreme court tomorrow from where i see can settle that piece that this you were born here

You're an American citizen, regardless of your parents' status, regardless of your granddaddy's status, regardless of the color of your skin or where you're from.

That, to me, is an important aspect of this.

The flip side of that coin is what Donald Trump thinks, and I would love to get your thoughts when you look at those two pieces.

Donald Trump thinks that his way to win the argument is to basically crap all over the judges.

Right.

So if your question is, could it be messy if the Supreme Court goes the other way?

Yeah, absolutely.

And most recently, Simone, in the tariffs case, without getting into sort of the nuts and bolts of it,

The Supreme Court ruled one way, but didn't quite explain how the remedy would work.

So is this a proactive remedy, meaning only children subsequently born?

That's what the executive order seems to posit.

Is it a retroactive order, meaning it would apply to people already?

born in this country who we believe are citizens?