Steve Bannon

emphasized the early church, what happened in the early church, the persecutions of the early church, to make sure we understand it, particularly that it was directed at the Christian faith.

Why with modernity have people kind of lost, has Holy Saturday in the general Christian faith overall kind of lost its place?

Dr. Williams, so much of your book goes back to what was it about Christianity that had the Roman state actually make it an official part of policy to persecute it?

I want to get into what the Christian message was and why it was so different.

As an organized faith, because I think it relates to your message is really in the subtitle of your book is very chilling.

It's called The Coming Christian Persecution, The Coming Christian Persecution.

And the subtitle, why things are getting worse and how to prepare.

for what is to come.

And I can tell you, and I've known Dr. Williams for a long time, is that this is an incredibly chilling book because of the intellectual rigor you bring to this topic.

The reason I wanted to do this on Holy Saturday with you is given this, what's just happened in Nashville at the Christian school.

And more and more information comes out about this.

The young woman who did it obviously planned it, planned it for a while.

She had gone to the school.

I think she was actually in counseling with with the pastor, one of the senior people there.

And it looks to many people.

in the United States, and nobody wants to talk about it, and they certainly won't let it be talked about in the mainstream media, that this persecution of Christians is actually, we're actually entering a quite dangerous phase of it.

Particularly when the mainstream media has said, well, you know, it's Tom Williams and Steve Bannon and these Dr. Taylor Marshall, all these people

uh people are all christian nationalists right and they're the dangers they're the domestic terrorists walk me through why your book really um quite frankly you give people a heads up that the nashvilles of the world are not going to be the exception they're going to be the rule sir

Were you we're going to break here in a second.

Were you shocked?