Steve Bannon

What did it mean?

And why do you say and can point to that we're in a post-Christian society?

Talk to us about the first century church.

What was it about Christianity that was different?

What was it about Christianity that caused the great persecution and everything that led up to that?

Because in understanding that, you can then begin to understand the coming Christian persecution.

That's essentially the thesis of your book, right?

You must go back in time and understand what differentiated this from other religions, what differentiated this as a faith,

to see the strong reaction of the Roman state against it leading up to the Great Persecution, sir?

One of the things about the book that's very chilling is to show that some of the emperors, and it's almost like the modern world, they understand these Christians have the deep faith, but they're kind of saying, hey,

All you got to do is light some incense.

All you have to do, you don't have to give up what you really believe.

You just have to light some incense.

You just have to be performative and we'll look the other way and you can go along and lead your life.

And it's obviously more important to lead your life and have your community if you just do this performative.

And about the Christians said, I can't do that.

That is to the core of it.

It's very chilling.

Because many of the Roman emperors, many of the Roman officials make a quite modern argument, right?

They just be performative.