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Steve Hsu

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

It doesn't have a way to independently validate X, and it can then use X in its reasoning pattern.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

Even though it knows it's supposed to check X, it doesn't really have a way to falsify X.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

The other problem with reasoning models for the application that we're specifically addressing in our market segment is people want for voice, again, fast response.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

So if you rely on a whole bunch of tokens being generated for reasoning, that's way over the, you know, fraction of a second that you have for that generations.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

You know, the speech to text and text to speech, all that stuff is wrapped in there.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

And then the reasoning has to be, you know, even smaller than a second, like a fraction of a second.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

So you would need a reasoning model that generates all of its reasoning tokens that fast.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

And then you might be able to use it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

Yeah.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

It's interesting.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

So, and this gets into a very, I think, important point, even for the broader question of AGI and what's going to happen to human society in the future.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

So the technology for, you could call them customer support agents, is very advanced now.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

So we have agents that are

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

capable of replacing, you know, something like 80%, maybe 90% of the calls that come into a call center.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

So if you're ordering a pizza or you're changing the delivery address for a package, you're wondering what happened to your package, you know, all of those things, AIs can actually handle pretty well now

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

However, in terms of what fraction of labor that used to be done by humans, entirely by humans in these call centers, has been replaced thus far by AI agents, it's still minuscule.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

It's very tiny.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

And a lot of it's held up by human decision-making.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

A lot of it's held up by sunk costs in old systems and old ways of doing things.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

And so...