Steve Hsu
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If you're trying to get the factory to switch from using steam to electricity, all the people who build steam and fit steam pipes are like against you.
They're actually against you at some level, and you have to fight through that.
I think they feel about it the way that someone who was a blacksmith or a buggy whip maker felt when they saw their first, you know, their first automobiles rolling down the street, right?
They could tell something was happening and they don't like it.
They're vaguely worried about the future.
But what else can they do?
Now, I will tell you that in some contexts, again, some of this is proprietary information, so I can't say it, but in some contexts,
companies that we are working with have said to us, we cannot say anything publicly about this because it's very bad optics for us to be shown to be replacing all these humans with robots.
And furthermore, we're actually negotiating a labor agreement.
Like our whole industry maybe is negotiating a labor agreement.
And the unions are kind of like they're kind of aware of this.
They're putting in little clauses like if you're displaced by technology, then you're entitled to this severance payment or there's a pool of displaced workers and the employers must hire from that pool first.
If they fill any new job, they must hire first from that pool.
So these are all standard things that a union would negotiate with the corporate employer.
But the moment that they become more aware that this threat is imminent, then they're going to negotiate even harder.
Right.
So all of this is very sensitive.
I think the workable thing will be you install a super focused agent.
You pay us one tenth or one fifth of what you're paying the human and everybody's happy.
I'm not sure what you're asking me.