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Steve Hsu

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

If you're trying to get the factory to switch from using steam to electricity, all the people who build steam and fit steam pipes are like against you.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

They're actually against you at some level, and you have to fight through that.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

I think they feel about it the way that someone who was a blacksmith or a buggy whip maker felt when they saw their first, you know, their first automobiles rolling down the street, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

They could tell something was happening and they don't like it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

They're vaguely worried about the future.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

But what else can they do?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

Now, I will tell you that in some contexts, again, some of this is proprietary information, so I can't say it, but in some contexts,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

companies that we are working with have said to us, we cannot say anything publicly about this because it's very bad optics for us to be shown to be replacing all these humans with robots.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

And furthermore, we're actually negotiating a labor agreement.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

Like our whole industry maybe is negotiating a labor agreement.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

And the unions are kind of like they're kind of aware of this.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

They're putting in little clauses like if you're displaced by technology, then you're entitled to this severance payment or there's a pool of displaced workers and the employers must hire from that pool first.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

If they fill any new job, they must hire first from that pool.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

So these are all standard things that a union would negotiate with the corporate employer.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

But the moment that they become more aware that this threat is imminent, then they're going to negotiate even harder.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

Right.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

So all of this is very sensitive.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

I think the workable thing will be you install a super focused agent.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

You pay us one tenth or one fifth of what you're paying the human and everybody's happy.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The difference between early and late AI adopters

I'm not sure what you're asking me.