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This is all history. Maybe because they broke up yesterday. NPR White House correspondent Danielle Kurtz-Laban was watching. Hi there, Danielle.

I guess we should note this very personal seeming dispute began with an actual policy disagreement. What is it?

I guess we should note this very personal seeming dispute began with an actual policy disagreement. What is it?

I guess we should note this very personal seeming dispute began with an actual policy disagreement. What is it?

OK, so this escalated in real time. Musk got onto X and he said EV credits aren't the issue for me. And then what?

OK, so this escalated in real time. Musk got onto X and he said EV credits aren't the issue for me. And then what?

OK, so this escalated in real time. Musk got onto X and he said EV credits aren't the issue for me. And then what?

I just want to ask how much this matters, because it all feels like a TV show, an unreality show. Does it matter?

I just want to ask how much this matters, because it all feels like a TV show, an unreality show. Does it matter?

I just want to ask how much this matters, because it all feels like a TV show, an unreality show. Does it matter?

NPR's Danielle Kurtzleben, thanks so much.

NPR's Danielle Kurtzleben, thanks so much.

NPR's Danielle Kurtzleben, thanks so much.

The president has been promising his tariffs will help make America more prosperous. And there is evidence that tariffs are at least helping the government's bottom line. Reports from the Treasury Department show that Trump's tariffs have raised nearly $70 billion so far this year.

The president has been promising his tariffs will help make America more prosperous. And there is evidence that tariffs are at least helping the government's bottom line. Reports from the Treasury Department show that Trump's tariffs have raised nearly $70 billion so far this year.

The president has been promising his tariffs will help make America more prosperous. And there is evidence that tariffs are at least helping the government's bottom line. Reports from the Treasury Department show that Trump's tariffs have raised nearly $70 billion so far this year.

And a new forecast out this week says if that keeps up, it could shave trillions of dollars off the federal debt over the next decade. NPR's Scott Horsley is following all this. Hi there, Scott.

And a new forecast out this week says if that keeps up, it could shave trillions of dollars off the federal debt over the next decade. NPR's Scott Horsley is following all this. Hi there, Scott.

And a new forecast out this week says if that keeps up, it could shave trillions of dollars off the federal debt over the next decade. NPR's Scott Horsley is following all this. Hi there, Scott.

Okay, so this forecast comes from an organization the White House doesn't like when they say things like lots of deficit spending coming, but they do like it in this case. So what is it?