Steve Inskeep

After a break, we discuss that quote and ask Emmanuel what he meant.

You have argued that your party was missing its priorities on education, arguing, and I paraphrase here, that Democrats were spending too much time on who goes into what school bathroom and not enough time on the kinds of issues that you have raised.

Too much time on trans issues, to be blunt.

You, a few months ago, were on a Megyn Kelly podcast, and she asked you a yes-no question.

And as I recall, the question was, can a man become a woman?

You said no, then said you were heading for the Witness Protection Program.

Yeah.

I want to ask about that because with that remark, it seemed to me you were going beyond the question of trans kids, where there's all kinds of debate, or trans kids in sport, where there's a very nuanced debate, and you're saying there aren't trans people.

Is that what you meant?

Okay.

Republicans are going to raise it if you don't.

They just did.

This was a debate in California over a school called the Lincoln School.

I want to find out if you think there was another strategic mistake.

I'm thinking about— The answer is yes.

Let's be a little more specific.

I'm thinking about corporate America, which is thought of as a traditional Republican constituency.

But I think that during the Obama administration, you believed that you had some support in corporate America.

There were prominent executives like the head of General Electric who were more or less with you.

And I think a lot of corporate America was on board with a lot of the Democratic agenda.