Steve Inskeep

I want to ask about that because with that remark, it seemed to me you were going beyond the question of trans kids, where there's all kinds of debate, or trans kids in sport, where there's a very nuanced debate, and you're saying there aren't trans people.

Is that what you meant?

Okay.

Republicans are going to raise it if you don't.

They just did.

This was a debate in California over a school called the Lincoln School.

I want to find out if you think there was another strategic mistake.

I'm thinking about— The answer is yes.

Let's be a little more specific.

I'm thinking about corporate America, which is thought of as a traditional Republican constituency.

But I think that during the Obama administration, you believed that you had some support in corporate America.

There were prominent executives like the head of General Electric who were more or less with you.

And I think a lot of corporate America was on board with a lot of the Democratic agenda.

It seems clear that in 2024, corporate America made their peace with whatever qualms they had with President Trump and got on board with President Trump.

Why do you think Democrats lost corporate America?

In the 90s, yeah.

He went for that, didn't do financial reform.

No, I understand.

I understand.

Did Democrats also do something, as on other issues, to drive people away that might have been— People or corporate America?