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Steve Keen

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
316 total appearances

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The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

The mainstream economics is an instruction to us doing that modeling properly.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

Because, again, this is something that's come out of science rather than economics.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

The idea you've got to model far from equilibrium systems.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

So this became obvious to scientists immediately.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

in general, back in the early 1960s, because we're all used to watching weather maps these days and, you know, getting forecasts.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

You can sort of trust, you know, you can watch the forecast during the week, what the weekend's going to be and plan your activities accordingly.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

You couldn't do that back in the 50s because what they were using was linear techniques and they assumed equilibrium fundamentally.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

And a mathematical meteorologist called Hans Edler-Dorens, he said, look, it's just wrong to have linear models of the weather.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

The interactions are nonlinear.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

So a high level of temperature causes a high level of moisture, which causes another factor and they amplify each other.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

And to make his point, he took the Navier-Stokes equations, which are

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

incredibly, in so far insoluble nonlinear equations that describe fluid dynamics in two dimensions, time and space.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

He took those and reduced them to a one-dimensional model, so just in time, with three variables and three parameters.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

And you couldn't get a simpler looking model and it generated complex systems behavior.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

So that was back in the 1960s.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

That's a paper called Deterministic A-Periodic Cycles.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

So that's been commonplace in science from the 1960s.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

And meteorologists adopted it almost immediately because they didn't have any ideological belief that the weather was in equilibrium.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

So consequently, that's not the only way in which meteorology has advanced since the 1960s, but that's typical of sciences in general.

The MOST Important Thing
How Prof. Steve Keen Predicted the 2008 Crash and What (he says) Economists Still Get Wrong

They've got used to handling non-equilibrium systems.