Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Pricing

Steve Kwast

👤 Person
1278 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

um and uh you're gonna you're gonna see that get operationalized so um i would say in the next few years we will probably start with just equipment where elon musk will be able to deliver a hundred tons of equipment anywhere on the planet in less than an hour for the military to maintain the presence of peace, the power of diplomacy through the fact that we can do something.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

And when you can maneuver like that with that kind of speed, agility, and affordability will come, but affordability, meaning that he's brought the cost of that kind of flight down 10x and he can reuse it, it's a game changer. How can another country compete with America being able to bring 100 tons as often as they want anywhere on the planet in less than an hour?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

And when you can maneuver like that with that kind of speed, agility, and affordability will come, but affordability, meaning that he's brought the cost of that kind of flight down 10x and he can reuse it, it's a game changer. How can another country compete with America being able to bring 100 tons as often as they want anywhere on the planet in less than an hour?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

And when you can maneuver like that with that kind of speed, agility, and affordability will come, but affordability, meaning that he's brought the cost of that kind of flight down 10x and he can reuse it, it's a game changer. How can another country compete with America being able to bring 100 tons as often as they want anywhere on the planet in less than an hour?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

Well, so China is probably the fastest follower, but they aren't anywhere close. Elon Musk knows, like I know in my company, Spacebuilt, speed is the only protection. Patents, you know, that just gives you the legal right to sue somebody if they try to do something on your front yard. or with your patent, but that is so easy to bypass. All you have to do is change one ingredient.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

Well, so China is probably the fastest follower, but they aren't anywhere close. Elon Musk knows, like I know in my company, Spacebuilt, speed is the only protection. Patents, you know, that just gives you the legal right to sue somebody if they try to do something on your front yard. or with your patent, but that is so easy to bypass. All you have to do is change one ingredient.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

Well, so China is probably the fastest follower, but they aren't anywhere close. Elon Musk knows, like I know in my company, Spacebuilt, speed is the only protection. Patents, you know, that just gives you the legal right to sue somebody if they try to do something on your front yard. or with your patent, but that is so easy to bypass. All you have to do is change one ingredient.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

You patent a recipe for cookies, and somebody adds an extra ounce of butter, and now you can't sue them, even though it may taste the same. So China is probably the fastest follower, but Elon Musk is the true innovator.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

You patent a recipe for cookies, and somebody adds an extra ounce of butter, and now you can't sue them, even though it may taste the same. So China is probably the fastest follower, but Elon Musk is the true innovator.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

You patent a recipe for cookies, and somebody adds an extra ounce of butter, and now you can't sue them, even though it may taste the same. So China is probably the fastest follower, but Elon Musk is the true innovator.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

Just the cyber espionage alone. They don't even have to have a person. But they do it through multiple means. They'll have people on the board of advisors, board of directors. They'll buy their way into companies with a lot of money through proxies.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

Just the cyber espionage alone. They don't even have to have a person. But they do it through multiple means. They'll have people on the board of advisors, board of directors. They'll buy their way into companies with a lot of money through proxies.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

Just the cyber espionage alone. They don't even have to have a person. But they do it through multiple means. They'll have people on the board of advisors, board of directors. They'll buy their way into companies with a lot of money through proxies.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

So they'll give a bunch of money to some American retired general that then says, hey, I'll invest in your company, which might be a startup on AI companies. And then they're on the board and they have access to the information and the money flows and the information flows back. That's one way of doing it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

So they'll give a bunch of money to some American retired general that then says, hey, I'll invest in your company, which might be a startup on AI companies. And then they're on the board and they have access to the information and the money flows and the information flows back. That's one way of doing it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

So they'll give a bunch of money to some American retired general that then says, hey, I'll invest in your company, which might be a startup on AI companies. And then they're on the board and they have access to the information and the money flows and the information flows back. That's one way of doing it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

Cyberestimation, where many of these companies do not have the kind of cyber hygiene and cyber techniques to be able to prevent somebody from getting in the back doors. Oftentimes the equipment they have has chips that were built in China and the back doors are built in and nobody knows that it's a sieve out. So there's a thousand ways of this industrial espionage getting back to China.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

Cyberestimation, where many of these companies do not have the kind of cyber hygiene and cyber techniques to be able to prevent somebody from getting in the back doors. Oftentimes the equipment they have has chips that were built in China and the back doors are built in and nobody knows that it's a sieve out. So there's a thousand ways of this industrial espionage getting back to China.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

Cyberestimation, where many of these companies do not have the kind of cyber hygiene and cyber techniques to be able to prevent somebody from getting in the back doors. Oftentimes the equipment they have has chips that were built in China and the back doors are built in and nobody knows that it's a sieve out. So there's a thousand ways of this industrial espionage getting back to China.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#202 Steve Kwast – How China is Mining the Moon and Weaponizing Space

So let's talk about culture, though, because this industrial espionage and China being a fast follower has a cultural component to it. And I'll just talk to two of them. And this gets back to the fact that we have to understand the cultures. Understand your enemy, understand yourself. And in a thousand years, you will not lose a battle.